Woof !

Posted by: Char Wallah on 18 May 2014

I have just read a newspaper article about new laws concerning pet dog controls.  Basically the gist of the article boiled down to this : If somone visits you in your home and the pooch jumps up to say hello, this "could" be interpreted as aggression and as an owner you could face, at worst, five years in prison.

 

In one way I like to see stiffer laws concerneig dog ownership, just to deter morons from abusing dogs, but this seems like madness.

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 19 May 2014 by Jasonf

Nope!

 

Jason.

Posted on: 20 May 2014 by Derek Wright

A tip on how to handle dogs that jump up at you:

1 Walk into the dog as it jumps up at you so that it overbalances and falls backwards.

 

or

2. Turn round so the dog is jumping up at your back, in the main the dog is seeking attention and turning round is denying attention.  After a while the dog will learn that jumping up is not the done thing.

Posted on: 20 May 2014 by Lionel

Or punch it in the face; then the owner.

Posted on: 20 May 2014 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by Lionel:

Or punch it in the face; then the owner.

Or stick a biro up its bum; then give the owner the same treatment.

Posted on: 20 May 2014 by Lionel

If they can't control their pet then I will.

Posted on: 20 May 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Lionel:

If they can't control their pet then I will.

You seem angry. Is there something we need to talk about?

Posted on: 20 May 2014 by Jasonf

Exactly my point.

 

Too much emphasis on controlling the dog and not enough emphasis on controlling the owner.

 

Jason.

Posted on: 20 May 2014 by George J

I never mind dogs being a little excessively friendly. Dogs sense that I love dogs on their Canine Sixth Sense, and they always make a bee-line for me!

 

It helps to socialise a dog to show completely open friendliness to it on first meeting!

 

It improves the dog, and sometimes shocks the owner, who sometimes may not have seen this side of their dog's character!

 

Last time a dog bit me was now 44 years ago! 

 

I even encourage friends to bring their dogs when they visit me. Just occasionally I get on better with the dogs of my friends than my friends themselves!

 

ATB from George

 

 

Posted on: 20 May 2014 by hungryhalibut

Horrible stinky smelly items that shit everywhere and chase me when I'm out running. The owners just say, don't worry, he's friendly. Bollocks to that, they are untrained and out of control. A well trained dog and owner are fine, I just wish there were more of them.

Posted on: 20 May 2014 by Jasonf
Originally Posted by Char Wallah:

Just because you sit on the end of a sewer network and then flush yours into the sea, doesn't make you superior to Mr woof woof.

Hmmm, interesting picture that Char,

 

If one could somehow capture millions of people sitting on their very own (private) branch of the sewer system in one image, doing the deed...the human equivalent to the pooper scooper...the wonders of modern plumbing.

 

Jason.

Posted on: 20 May 2014 by Lionel
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by Lionel:

If they can't control their pet then I will.

You seem angry. Is there something we need to talk about?

I don't know unless you are the owner of a dog or other pet you cannot control or train how to behave in company.

 

If, uninvited, your dog humps my leg, would you object if I then humped your leg?

 

If your dog, uninvited, licks my face, would you object if I then licked your face?

 

If your dog bites me, why would you object to firstly my killing the agressor and secondly punching the irresponsible owner who allowed that to happen.

 

My point is that if you have a pet you should ensure it is trained not to do any of the above.

Posted on: 20 May 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Lionel:
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by Lionel:

If they can't control their pet then I will.

You seem angry. Is there something we need to talk about?

I don't know unless you are the owner of a dog or other pet you cannot control or train how to behave in company.

 

If, uninvited, your dog humps my leg, would you object if I then humped your leg?

 

If your dog, uninvited, licks my face, would you object if I then licked your face?

 

If your dog bites me, why would you object to firstly my killing the agressor and secondly punching the irresponsible owner who allowed that to happen.

 

My point is that if you have a pet you should ensure it is trained not to do any of the above.

My dog bites you? OK I'll take responsibility for that. If it results in my prosecution and/or my dog being destroyed then that's fair. If you sue me and I have to pay some damages, that's fair. But if you punch me or kill my dog yourself, then I'll have you arrested.

 

I dunno. You still seem angry. Contemplating killing things and revenge/violence towards others in enough detail and with enough passion to brag about it in public is behaviour that has been associated with psychopaths.

 

My first response to your humping my leg or licking my face would not be to attempt to kill or otherwise injure you. I'd probably suggest that you seek help.

 

 

Posted on: 20 May 2014 by TomK
Originally Posted by Jota:

A dog attacks someone then the owners should be held responsible. Cannot see what the problem with that is.

Agree entirely. Where is the problem?

And it should be extended to all pets, not just dogs. My former neighbour (and good friend) allowed his cat to roam free, including killing expensive fish in a neighbour's pond. His cat regularly shat and pished in our garden and would sit on on the bonnets of our cars, leaving claw marks in the process. I spoke to him about it in a friendly manner and he claimed that a cat was uncontrollable. In effect the whole neighbourhood had to be tolerant of his pet. I suggested it might not like a pellet from my air pistol up its arse and suddenly it became much more biddable.

Posted on: 21 May 2014 by james n
Originally Posted by Char Wallah:

Some people are strange enough to dislike birds and insects in their gardens, part of the reason they concrete over their garden and use it as a car park instead, I guess. If you're found shooting at any animal with a pellet gun in your neighbourhood then expect a visit from the  RSPCA and the police. I don't know how your neighbours would treat you afterwards, animal cruelty being the lowest form of pernicious human vices. 

 

Lionel, I cannot judge you over a forum having no idea what you look like, but if you are nice enough looking I wouldn't mind you trying to lick my face.

Posted on: 21 May 2014 by rupert

Hi I have a cat nasty things kill any thing what moves and tortures them , Costs about 12 pound a week to feed, But he looks after it's self dose not attack humans on y tube it showed a cat attack a dog, that cat had been a stray followed them home so they give it one, So they have some good points live and let live regards

Posted on: 21 May 2014 by Jasonf
Originally Posted by TomK:
Originally Posted by Jota:

A dog attacks someone then the owners should be held responsible. Cannot see what the problem with that is.

Agree entirely. Where is the problem?

And it should be extended to all pets, not just dogs. My former neighbour (and good friend) allowed his cat to roam free, including killing expensive fish in a neighbour's pond. His cat regularly shat and pished in our garden and would sit on on the bonnets of our cars, leaving claw marks in the process. I spoke to him about it in a friendly manner and he claimed that a cat was uncontrollable. In effect the whole neighbourhood had to be tolerant of his pet. I suggested it might not like a pellet from my air pistol up its arse and suddenly it became much more biddable.

Tom, I am truly amazed that you don't understand that a cat needs to roam free.

 

Do you think your neighbour should put it on a lead, or keep it entrapped in his house. Taught not to step over the boundary into your precious garden. Perhaps you think the cat is a slave or a moron that can be easily conditioned not to sit on objects that are owned by you and alter the smooth trajectory of your well controlled life.

 

I hope his cat shat all over your Pansies and pissed into your watering can...if you have a garden that is worthy of the name garden

 

Jason.

 

p.s. I find your views towards animals depressing.

Posted on: 21 May 2014 by George J

Of course if Tom had a dog, the cat would come nowhere near.

 

Win-win situation in my view!

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 21 May 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by George J:

Of course if Tom had a dog, the cat would come nowhere near.

 

Win-win situation in my view!

 

ATB from George

Yes. With two Whippets, we don't have a cat problem!

Posted on: 21 May 2014 by George J

When I had my lovely Welsh Collie, all the nearby cats [except the farm cats, which were more or less feral] suddenly became house cats!

 

The gardeners were all well pleased. 

 

I never thought of it as a social service before now!

 

ATB from George

 

 

Posted on: 21 May 2014 by TomK
Originally Posted by Jasonf:
Originally Posted by TomK:
Originally Posted by Jota:

A dog attacks someone then the owners should be held responsible. Cannot see what the problem with that is.

Agree entirely. Where is the problem?

And it should be extended to all pets, not just dogs. My former neighbour (and good friend) allowed his cat to roam free, including killing expensive fish in a neighbour's pond. His cat regularly shat and pished in our garden and would sit on on the bonnets of our cars, leaving claw marks in the process. I spoke to him about it in a friendly manner and he claimed that a cat was uncontrollable. In effect the whole neighbourhood had to be tolerant of his pet. I suggested it might not like a pellet from my air pistol up its arse and suddenly it became much more biddable.

Tom, I am truly amazed that you don't understand that a cat needs to roam free.

 

Do you think your neighbour should put it on a lead, or keep it entrapped in his house. Taught not to step over the boundary into your precious garden. Perhaps you think the cat is a slave or a moron that can be easily conditioned not to sit on objects that are owned by you and alter the smooth trajectory of your well controlled life.

 

I hope his cat shat all over your Pansies and pissed into your watering can...if you have a garden that is worthy of the name garden

 

Jason.

 

p.s. I find your views towards animals depressing.

Why should I have to care what my neighbour's cat does? We had loads of kids in our garden at that time and dog or cat shit isn't good for them. Owners have to be responsible for their pets' behaviour. I don't see why that's a problem.

 

Posted on: 21 May 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Jasonf:
...that a cat needs to roam free.

 

 

Which is precisely why they are unsuitable as pets.

Posted on: 22 May 2014 by BigH47

I agree that cats are a PITA generally to everybody except their owners, mainly because all they see of their little darlings is when they come in for food, or to deliver small cat gifts.

Posted on: 23 May 2014 by Mr Fjeld

I like animals; dogs, cats, horses etc. but every now and then one meets dog owners who really shouldn't have dogs. Some people are just plain disrespectful because they are not able to control their dogs - or doesn't bother to do so anyway. Having had dogs since I was a young child and currently having two Terriers I feel I'm qualified to have an opinion. However, accidents do happen and people can get hurt by animals. I fail to understand how this to gives them a right to have an animal put down without some sort of enquiry. People who talk about punching dogs or owners and killing cats really should consider seeking help for either anger management or anxiety.

Our car had the paint scratched by cats which used to sleep on the bonnet. It really is annoying when the car had to be re-painted for £ 2000,- but I could never see myself hurting the cats in any way. Having said that there is much common sense in having the cat population controlled by spaying.

Posted on: 23 May 2014 by james n
Originally Posted by Mr Fjeld:

I like animals; dogs, cats, horses etc. but every now and then one meets dog owners who really shouldn't have dogs. Some people are just plain disrespectful because they are not able to control their dogs - or doesn't bother to do so anyway. Having had dogs since I was a young child and currently having two Terriers I feel I'm qualified to have an opinion. However, accidents do happen and people can get hurt by animals. I fail to understand how this to gives them a right to have an animal put down without some sort of enquiry. People who talk about punching dogs or owners and killing cats really should consider seeking help for either anger management or anxiety.

Our car had the paint scratched by cats which used to sleep on the bonnet. It really is annoying when the car had to be re-painted for £ 2000,- but I could never see myself hurting the cats in any way. Having said that there is much common sense in having the cat population controlled by spaying.

You sound like a nice chap Mr Fjeld