Desktop Client question

Posted by: DeepPurple on 19 February 2011

How do I change the drive letters? I want to use Y & Z rather than D & E.

Andy
Posted on: 19 February 2011 by Aleg
Originally Posted by DeepPurple:
How do I change the drive letters? I want to use Y & Z rather than D & E.

Andy

In Windows Disk Management you can change Drive-letters of any drive on you computer.

Network drives can be added/deleted via Windows Explorer Menu-bar / Tools / Map network drive...
Posted on: 19 February 2011 by DeepPurple
This is an old XP box, I don't have Windows disk management.........
Posted on: 19 February 2011 by Aleg
How to use Disk Management to configure basic disks in Windows XP
Posted on: 19 February 2011 by DeepPurple
Hi Aleg The point is that the PC has already allocated the D & E drives (as well as the F drive). I want to be able to allocate different Drive letters via the Client, rather than playing around with the complete system setup. Why should I have to frig around with the PC to make it fit with the Client, surely the Client should be able to have it's parameters changed? Rgds
Posted on: 19 February 2011 by Trevor Wilson
Hi. On a Naim HDX and UnitiServe it is not possible to change the drive letters that are used in the machine for it's internal software functions. I am curious as to why you would want to do this however? Can you enlighten me please?
Posted on: 19 February 2011 by DeepPurple
I want to take a backup of the 400+ albums that I have ripped to my Uniti Serve. I do not want to change the drive id's on the Serve, but want to change the drive id's on the Desktop client, so that I can do a backup!!!!!

Is this too much to ask? I know how to assign network drives and have got on the PC Y & Z assigned. How the blue blazes can I tell the desktop client which network drives to use? I DO NOT WANT TO USE D & E.
Posted on: 19 February 2011 by Trevor Wilson
Hi again. The drive with the music on should be available as a guest share so you can copy this music to any other destination on your network. There should also be instructions on the cd with desktop client installer that gives a example on how to automatically get a nas drive to backup your music.
Posted on: 19 February 2011 by DeepPurple
I do not have  NAS drive, but a USB (to the MAC) connected WD My Book. We are now MAC Based, and the PC came out of the loft! All I want to do is be able to amend the drive id's in the Desktop Client. I have done a copy - oh well, 8 hours later> Is there no way of changing the default drive letters in the client?
Posted on: 19 February 2011 by Trevor Wilson
Hi. No there's no way to change drive letters in the system. Nor is there a concept of allowing a USB as a backup drive. However If your mac based you could use the mac to backup to the USB over the network. So mac with usb stick in connects to UnitiServe over the network then backup. You could use something like "chronosync for mac " to automate the operation. I hope this helps.
Posted on: 23 February 2011 by DeepPurple
OK People

I have got all the answers to my original query. 400 albums took over 2 weeks to rip and are now in the loft (and I have not finished ripping yet). I do not want to have to bring them down again should the HD on my Serve fail.

I do not claim to have found the answers out myself, but purely a phone call to that wonderful 'Customer Services Manager' in Salisbury resolved all my queries.

1) The Desktop Client (DC) was written for the HDX at a time when it had 2 x 500Gb drives. The DC backup script is designed to allow the user to backup from drive 1 (D to drive 2 (E. This part of the DC does NOT apply to the UnitiServe.

2) The ONLY way to properly backup the Serve is via a NAS device using the NAS' own backup software.

3) You can just do a COPY from the Serve to a USB connected drive (in my case a 1TB Western Digital MYBOOK), as a matter of interest, 400 odd CD's (approx 250 GB) took nearly 8 hours and both the MAC and the Serve are connected via 100 Mbit Ethernet cables. The issue here is that if you still need to add more CDs, the copy becomes redundant as there is no concept of Incremental backups.

Hope this helps, but be aware.......

Andy

BTW NAS on order!
Posted on: 23 February 2011 by Tog
Now you understand why Naim produce the SSD version of the UnitiServe - the NAS is essential and I can't see the logic of having a hard drive that is so tricky to back up. The moral of this story is get the SSD version.







Is now a good time to mention how easy it is to back up a Vortexbox system? - just pop in a USB drive .. Click and go .... No? thought not







Tog
Posted on: 25 February 2011 by Phil Harris
Originally Posted by DeepPurple:

1) The Desktop Client (DC) was written for the HDX at a time when it had 2 x 500Gb drives. The DC backup script is designed to allow the user to backup from drive 1 (D to drive 2 (E. This part of the DC does NOT apply to the UnitiServe.

2) The ONLY way to properly backup the Serve is via a NAS device using the NAS' own backup software.

3) You can just do a COPY from the Serve to a USB connected drive (in my case a 1TB Western Digital MYBOOK), as a matter of interest, 400 odd CD's (approx 250 GB) took nearly 8 hours and both the MAC and the Serve are connected via 100 Mbit Ethernet cables. The issue here is that if you still need to add more CDs, the copy becomes redundant as there is no concept of Incremental backups.

Hi,

Just to complete the information - Desktop Client is written to accompany the Naim Music Server range ... There are three models of "NS" server (the CI units) and two models each of the HDX and UnitiServe (which are the "consumer" models). The CI units have always had (and will continue to have) 2 hard drives in them - one of which is used for backup - and so the functionality is still part of Desktop Client. It does not currently apply to the UnitiServe or the HDX.

There are a number of ways to do an "incremental" backup of a 1Tb HDX or UnitiServe. If you are using a Windows PC to do the copying then you could use "robocopy" with the /MIR option or something like Microsoft's "SyncToy" - NAS's usually have an option to do an incremental backup of a folder too so there should be no need to do a full backup each time.

Cheers

Phil
Posted on: 25 February 2011 by Phil Harris
Originally Posted by Tog:
Now you understand why Naim produce the SSD version of the UnitiServe - the NAS is essential and I can't see the logic of having a hard drive that is so tricky to back up. The moral of this story is get the SSD version.

<<SNIP as not relevant to my reply>>

Tog

Hi Tog,

The single drive units were basically introduced because a significant number of customers didn't want to bother backing up their music collection - when we had the dual drive versions of ths HDXs we were often asked why the second drive couldn't just be used to store more music. The single 1Tb drive versions of the HDX and UnitiServe cater to those people particularly but we do still try to get the customer to back up their data hence the sections in the manual. We are also working on improvint the backup functionality of the single drive units to make this easier. 

For the CI market all of our servers still have twin drives that are used with the second drive as a backup.

Phil
Posted on: 25 February 2011 by DeepPurple
Hi Phil

NAS arrived today and Steve sent me a natty article on how to use it to backup the UnitiServe. Also got a 2nd drive free in a Netgear promo, so the US will not only be backed up but in a Raid config!

Will also leave me with at least 1TB of Raid'ed storage for my photos etc.

What joy, just need to sit down and start RTFM'ing

Rgds

Andy