Do I 'Need' a Network/Streaming System?

Posted by: J.N. on 24 February 2011

Maybe this should be in the SA section, but it's a general Hi-Fi question.

I've been into Hi-Fi for forty years, and for the first time I'm a bit nonplussed by the evolving state of high-quality music replay in the home. I gotta say I'm having trouble with a whole new vocabulary:-

'Twonky' is a recent curiosity to hit me. A new innovation/term seems to pop up almost daily. 'Apple Airplay' is today's new discovery for me. Then there's the myriad of file types available to rip in. Which one should I use? Do I wait for iTunes to make Hi-Res files available as the norm? A NAS device can't go in my listening room because it's fan-noisy - so I would need wiring from another room where my iMac and router are located.

I have some friends with big houses, and they simply have  good quality Hi-Fi system in their lounge/listening room. Me too. My Geneva iPod Dock does me just fine and dandy in the kitchen.

I can of course see the appeal and convenience of computer-audio. I have an office system sourced from my iMac and a good quality DAC. I love my iPod too, so I am most definitely not anti-new-technology. Several friends with good Hi-Fi systems source them from a MacMini or MacBook feeding a good quality DAC. Everything in one place. Simples.

Network/streaming systems are a great marketing opportunity for us to keep up with the latest technology, but do most of us actually need it? And after you've paid to download everything again in Hi-Res downloads (another great marketing opportunity!), I reckon we will eventually access all our media (music and films) from 'The Cloud' or 'The Big Jukebox in the Sky', so one will not actually need to own any music, but simply pay £20 a month or whatever to have instant access to anything and everything, in any resolution desired via a high-speed internet connection.

This will take some time of course, because being cranky humans, many of us still enjoy having our music in a tangible form. I guess that will change as our young folk grow-up with their music in downloaded form.

I've been well and truly put off by the complexity of the current evolving technology, and am happily sticking with CD and vinyl for my serious listening for the time being.

I think the technology is currently in a transitional computer/Hi-Fi hinterland, and will in time, become a lot simpler. That's why I'm holding off.

This post infers no criticism of Naim whatsoever. As a company, they must evolve or die.

Interesting times, and it's a privilege to live through them.

John.
Posted on: 28 February 2011 by Tog
Originally Posted by DavidDever:
Originally Posted by tonym:
Honestly–the typical end user probably has a better chance than the "I know a fair bit about computers" crowd which insists on rolling their own solutions that fall apart at the slightest stress test across the network.

Nine times out of ten–the stuff just works–and the other times, there's typically a pretty obvious reason why it doesn't. Does it outperform CD playback in real time? Absolutely–this is good enough a reason for anyone to dip their toes in and give it a try....

I haven't owned a CD player in well over three years, and am more than happy with where the technology is going–not just from a convenience perspective, but a musical one.
David you sell the stuff - and good stuff it is ... but come on ... without "roll your own" there would be no Naim or Linn ... or Apple for that matter.

And the scary thing is ..for every ten "roll your own" projects that fall appart there is one that works at least as well as the "bona fide" commercial product -  If you are spending 5 or 6 thousand on a product do you really want it described as "dipping your toes in" or "give it a try" I would quite like it to work and work very well all the time please.

Tog - not your typical end user - just a customer.
Posted on: 28 February 2011 by Mr Underhill
Although I still think my LP12/ARO etc gives me the best sound quality ....ripping my CDs has given me something that I am HAPPY to listen to. CD never did that for me.

I would accept that a CD555/PS555 will beat the streaming solutions I have heard, but by a very small margin; and the system I heard this through has now had the CD555 displaced by a Linn streaming solution.

Although direct rips can sound good, in my system, uPNP sounds as good, if not better.

Shockingly, perhaps, I am sat here listening to low-quality Spotify, and enjoying it - and have ordered a CD as a result, for ripping of course!

Naim have upped the convenience factor, while maintaining high quality. But, for those who are prepared to roll their sleeves up, high quality can be gained, and money saved, and with a surprisingly short learning curve, Vortexbox being one such 'off the shelf' solution - as mentioned by Tog.

M