Hi Res early Rolling Stones ...
Posted by: Rosewind on 02 March 2011
Hi res 24/88 and 24/176 files of three early Rolling Stones (mono) albums + early Greatest Hits are available at HD Tracks. At a price, that is. I'm dowloading ever so slowly now.
Best wishes,
Peter
Best wishes,
Peter
Posted on: 02 March 2011 by GerryMcg
Thanks for that. Can you let us know how they sound.
Gerry
Gerry
Posted on: 02 March 2011 by Harry
I just got back from a trip and saw the Email announcement. LOVE to hear your views on the quality. Although my mouse finger is twitching as I type.
Thanks
Thanks
Posted on: 02 March 2011 by Rosewind
I am still downloading ... I haven't listened to the hi res files on my main kit, but I have a feeling that the 24/88 files will sound almost identical to the ones I'm downloading in 24/176. I listened very briefly to MP3 320 files against the 24/176 on my office set-up through on-board audio on my PC using J River Media Center 15 for playback and I did not hear a huge difference. But don't take that as a conclusive answer.
Best wishes,
Peter
Best wishes,
Peter
Posted on: 02 March 2011 by Harry
Thank you Peter. If they're not maxed out and clipped they're probably going to be good enough for me. But i will use you as a guinea pig if you don't mind because we've been here so often before.
Posted on: 03 March 2011 by Skip
What do you play these files with?
Posted on: 03 March 2011 by Rosewind
Originally Posted by Skip:
What do you play these files with?
That is a very good question: at 176/24 I only have my 1212m EMU sound card in my semi-moveable Shuttle computer. I will move it next to my Naim kit to anable true 176/24 playback. Then I can compare some of the files with MP3 played through SB Touch/Aune DAC.Clearly I will need a streamer/DAC capable of hi res sooner than I thought ...I am trying right now to configure my PC sound card to play back 176/24 as I write this.
It took a long time to download the files.
EDIT: I have a nagging feeling that 176/24 is not supported in my EMU 1212m (PCI) sound card ... Another reason to buy a decent DAC, I suppose.
Best wishes,
Peter
Posted on: 05 March 2011 by aht
In another thread it was reported that the 176/24 files would play through the Naim DAC, but that the "HD" light would not go on. With the 88/24 files, however, it did illuminate. Any further reports? I'd like to know if the 176/24 is worth the extra cost.
Posted on: 06 March 2011 by Rosewind
Apparantly, these hi res downloads have been converted from the digital DSD masters used for the 22 Rolling Stones SACD releases around 2002, so they have not been made on the basis of analogue masters.There is some controversy as to whether the hi res 176/24 files are what they are sold as. An inspection of two 176/24 flles indicates that they "are sampled with 88.2" which "can’t be right."
I can't judge this, but if this is true there is little reason to buy the 176/24 files. I am looking forward to reading an answer from HD Tracks.
Best wishes,
Peter
I can't judge this, but if this is true there is little reason to buy the 176/24 files. I am looking forward to reading an answer from HD Tracks.
Best wishes,
Peter
Posted on: 06 March 2011 by aht
Peter, thanks. I have most of the 2002 SACDs, and they sounded pretty darn good. I no longer have a functioning SACD player, however.
I downloaded one of the 88/24 albums, and will compare with the CD layer of the 2002 release at some point. First impression of the HD Tracks version isn't terribly positive...
I downloaded one of the 88/24 albums, and will compare with the CD layer of the 2002 release at some point. First impression of the HD Tracks version isn't terribly positive...
Posted on: 07 March 2011 by Rosewind
There is of course the possibility that filtering were applied in the process prior to the transfer to DSD. I'll let you know when / if new things appear about the provenance of the Rolling Stones (DSD) masters.
I still have a huge gap in my digital music collection that needs to be filled with hi res Rolling Stones.
Best wishes,
Peter
Posted on: 09 March 2011 by Hot Rats
I've just played the 24/176 of 'Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass)'. The HD indicator on my nDAC did illuminate.
Posted on: 09 March 2011 by Rosewind
Hi Hot Rats. In Audacity the files are shown as 24/176, so they should tally in as that in your nDAC. It's good that they do.
Best wishes,
Peter
Best wishes,
Peter
Posted on: 12 March 2011 by Rosewind
On another forum someone reported from a careful comparison of one track "Paint It Black":
"We have set a blind comparison, using Linn Klimax DS as source.
Track: Paint it Black "(176.4 download and a friend got the 88.2 of TTPD)
"The results are a surprise to me (even more to my friend).
I anticipated a very slight difference or not difference at all, but there is
a noticeable difference. 176.4 sound better (blind) at least in my system.
Then we compared (not blind) to Vinyl (200g Japanese pressing, not the
“remastered” one). For the first time vinyl doesn’t beat to dust
digital. Vinyl is somehow better, but not in every aspect."
You better make your own comparisons.
Best wishes,
Peter
"We have set a blind comparison, using Linn Klimax DS as source.
Track: Paint it Black "(176.4 download and a friend got the 88.2 of TTPD)
"The results are a surprise to me (even more to my friend).
I anticipated a very slight difference or not difference at all, but there is
a noticeable difference. 176.4 sound better (blind) at least in my system.
Then we compared (not blind) to Vinyl (200g Japanese pressing, not the
“remastered” one). For the first time vinyl doesn’t beat to dust
digital. Vinyl is somehow better, but not in every aspect."
You better make your own comparisons.
Best wishes,
Peter