Where has the NDX into Hugo thread gone?

Possibly being pruned of the more childish threads?

G

It's in Admin for review and moderation as it had rather gone off-topic and was getting rather personal.  I'll cut it back as best I can, when I have time to do so and move it back to the Streaming Audio room.

Looks like the parent thread is back in moderation.

Not surprised really.

We need to stop the personal verbal abuse. I dont blame Richard for taking it down at all. I would say its fine to pull each others posts apart, but the abuse is a step too far, at least in my book.

Gareme

I'm glad it is likely to return (even if in a censored version). There was plenty of information and comparatives offered on various DACs and configs. 

It's back in moderation mainly because some here cannot help but turn to personal abuse instead of argument.

It's summer time and everyone's out having fun when they're not hard at work.  There has to be better things to do, surely?

It definitely a thread where it is worth musing on discretion being the better part of valour...

Richard - thanks - and what a waste of your time -  perhaps a few here are deliberately spoiling it for everyone else - could they not receive their yellow cards?

Simon

A four month ban from international forums would have more teeth surely?

G

Q2.

DSD is not restricted to USB only, also SPDIF can playback DSD-over-PCM (DOP). In fact any interface that can handle 176.4 kHz can handle DOP.

Secondly in my setup with a topquality USB-SPDIF converter the sound is better over SPDIF than over USB.

On the subject of the relatively low cost of the Hugo and the fact Chord admit it's better than their top of the range DAC, remember this was developed primarily as a Headphone DAC/amp. The fact it also worked well as a standalone DAC is what probably took them by surprise having priced the unit for use as a portable headphone devise.

I cant see this i really cant. Surely Rob would have said F#@k me guys have a listen to this. Then those guys would have passed it too the marketing guys who would have said Ker Ching.

If not did they not listen to it before marketing it. And do manufacturers not compare their gear with others to see where it sits not only in their own portfolio by in others as well.

I mean Naim would not have got anywhere with the NDS if it had been not been better than the NDX or an Arcam stream whatever its called.

Graeme

The Hugo is fairly priced, and if anything should be lower.

What's the cost of a XLinX PFGA and a Spartan processor?

Not very much, and if you look at the price of individual components inside the Hugo, you will see that 1400 GBP is quite generous.

Headphone amp & DAC vs standalone DAC? Take your pick. Rob Watts and Chord have stated that they just developed the most advanced DAC they could and it happened to fit into a small format. On this forum, the discussion centres on its use as a standalone DAC, while on the HeadFi forum there's virtually no mention of this use.

It's interesting that Naim hosts discussions such as those surrounding the Hugo. Is it openness or a way of publicly showing that there's nothing to fear from the competiton. The latter, I think.

Jan

personally if I find the Hugo as good as an NDAC and according to some, even NDS (!!) , then maybe my next purchase will be from Chord.

but where did I find this out. On the Naim forum. Hence Naim may have lost itself a customer on it's own very forum.

openness and not being worried about the competition is fine, but at the end of the day Naim is still a business that needs to sell as many products as it can.

Yup. I've been getting much further into so many albums that I thought I knew well. Leonard Cohen's Old Ideas is a case in point. The beauty of Leonard's poetry, or rather the pictures he paints so economically with words, is very well served. I'd never quite grasped the depth of Leonard's dialogue with his god on this album, until the Hugo came along.

The Hugo fronted by the MacBook Pro running Audirvana is turning out to be quite the source. I'm still running it using the stock USB to micro-USB cable supplied by Chord. Has anyone compared the stock cable with alternatives such as the Vertere?

Thanks,

Jan    

Waf

Thats kinda my point wat. What. Well i dont see how it has caught them by suprise. Surely they new what they had, and by marketing it at the price they have, well surely they new it would go like hot cakes.

Where does that saying come from, surely cakes are cold. hot cakes wouldnt sell

Graeme

Listening to 'Moby Dick' just now and the drums sound like, well...drums!

How do they do that then?!

G

With drums i'd expect 

...amused smirk.

Very palpable skin sound though. It makes me wonder, and it makes me wonder...etc etc and so on.

G

Well it did catch them by surprise to the extent they are having trouble keeping up with demand. They told me that R&D is on hold ATM whilst all hands are used for production including the CEO. That's the reason a new standalone DAC won't be available until at least the end of next year. It was originally designed as a headphone DAC so they could hardly sell it for £4000 could they?

I do agree Graeme, drum do sound like real drums. My system doesn't produce oodles of bass, its not he weight its the actual sound. Cant put it into words, it just sounds right. But then so do the other instruments. Was listening to some cello, and by god it was in front of me. Its very odd, well it is for me

Graeme

Steve

what a lovely position to be in. Well all i can say is thank you too them. 

Graeme