What Router are you using?
Posted by: Big Bill on 03 July 2014
Hi I was just making a post about wireless routers in another thread and I thought it might be a good idea to get other people's thoughts on what routers they are using.
There is a motive for this, I currently run a BTHomeHub 2 and it has started to give a few problems recently - interestingly since I bought an iPad!
So I have 2 options the BT HomeHub 4 currently at about £50 or one of the Asus jobbies at about £100.
Any thoughts guys.
btw I only plug the broadband modem and a connection to a switch into the ports on the BT HH2.
I have 3x 24/96 & 192 WAV albums waiting to be downloaded & I will try that over wireless to see how it goes with both time & HH4 case temperature rise. Then compare time to upload straight to the NAS via the switch & patch cable.
I downloaded one 24/192 WAV file from HDT
- HDT meanz using an IP Hide prog & they do slow the process down
2.55GB file
To download using wireless on 5Ghz band took 35 mins
To upload with an ethernet patch into the Gigabit network switch & on to the Gigabit NAS port took 1m 50secs
Problem is I am not sure what the influence of the IP Hide prog has, but 35mins over wireless is painfully slow.
I will check out how much a patch cable speeds a similar file size on my next buy using IP Hide.
......... The stupid names they use are not helpful
but add +1 to that
Apples’ marketing has always amused/angered me
In some respects they do a good job, but I get left with a feeling of entrapment to the brand & OS with things like nStream.
But don't start me off, I might get into pricing .........
When you connect to switch you plug in to a port.
If you run wireless you connect to an invisible port that is in the air
The most logical name is a portair, sorry I mean airport.
Working originally with OS X and supporting streams gives us the name X-stream
So as not to clash with Cyrus, best call this Extreme
Hence the totally logical name Airport Extreme.
Naim's decision to use the iPad as a remote control was because making their own controller would have been more expensive. So nStream iPad is a Naim remote that offers lots of extra features. So a veritable bargain.
Think of the man who stared out of his window and thought that dude is using that wonderful Apple Mac and all we have is dossy command line. We'll make something like it and a few bugs so it looks like it ours. As he was staring out of the windows at the time, he came up with the name operating system 2.
Well something like that ...
And of course that man who created the Apple mac copied the whole WIMP GUI idea from those good people on the Xerox PARC project. But best not to mention that.
Mike it is very likely that it will drastically slow you down, but at least you are able to get stuff from HDTracks and you don't have to do anything during your 35min download. You could do something useful or browse a gentleman's site.
Dont get me wrong apple routers work, but the set up is not as easy as it should be. There is a veneer of ease because it has an auto find app. But all routers have that now.
when you plug an asus in, its the first webpage you goto in a browser. You dont get easier than that.
as for reliability, thats an odd one. I have owned drayteks, asus, apple, netgear. They all lasted as long as till i moved them on and upgraded. Apple is not better in thus regard.
all i am saying is dont assume that their routers are 'better' they are not. At most they are in the middle of the pack.
how much is new time capsule? 230 quid? You can have the latest ac asus and a 2tb usb harddrive to plug into it (for its built in time machine) for the same money. Faster, more configurable, ddns!' upnp/dnla etc etc.
Not sure whether the Asus has a USB2 or USB3 port for connection of an external hard drive.
So, just wondering how fast backups would be compared to the built in 7200rpm drive of the Time Capsule. Also, how many devices are 802.11 ac compatible to get the real benefit of this?
The Time Capsule is also not designed to a server, so I'm not surprised that in does not have DNLA UPNP etc.
J
Sometimes the world is like a great big onion.
100% Wat, the onion was & is now, the next one on my try list.
Jude.
the asus is far more powerful than the airport, its a simple as at. So yes, it has dnla and ftp. It also has ddns, which is critical for many users without a fixed ip, such as me. Not sure if they ever got that sorted for apples software, it certainly never used to be there.
it has a usb three connection. cannot comment on its time machine capabilities as i do not rely on that particular piece of apple tech, especially over a network. Should be nippy it has a dual core processor.
J
Mike, Wat, I so agree. Having lived through and contributed at stages of my career to the development of the mass enablement of the web and internet for the public, I intensely dislike how the freedom of the web can be abused by users, commercial organisations and security agencies globally. The latter beggars belief in some countries now as I have been finding out recently..
Not that I condone in anyway illegal/ obnoxious activities, but staying ahead of prying eyes for commercial gain and market control is something I actively support.
To adapt a phrase... I am not a consumer, I am a free man....
Simon
+1 Simon - However whilst admitting to hiding my IP, I am not a www terrorist or trying to avoid paying royalties; all I want is Hi-Res music – at a reasonable price. If I can get what I want in UK I will do so – it’s a lot easier than faffin’ around with this IP subterfuge.
I used to have a US e-mail address but since 1/1/14 it's no longer available to me, (slightly annoying as that was before I moved from CD to streaming) It was good for US outlets like HDT but it does not help with French outlets like Qobuz & their very annoying “This item is not available for download in your country” for a British artist/band & a brit record label.
The impasse the download people seem to be in with whatever is causing these regional restrictions is just encouraging the illegal royalty avoiding bandits, its high time they got this sorted.
The impasse the download people seem to be in with whatever is causing these regional restrictions is just encouraging the illegal royalty avoiding bandits, its high time they got this sorted.
Indeed the music distributors are shooting themselves in the foot.. i suspect the main reason this farce continues is because Hidef / non lossy downloads are considered niche and minority as most who don't want lossy compressed downloads buy the CD, and perhaps there is no appetite to incur the costs of sorting out the global distribution rights of such material.
Simon
Simon
I can understand that between US & EU & all the other regions, but France to UK ??? what happened to free trade within EU. ???
Mike-B - there is an exception to free movement of goods when IP rights are involved. These rights are still national. It enables the rights holder to grant licenses to different people in different countries.
No.
It's all about protecting areas of the market. In the past the UK was a very expensive place to buy CDs, Cameras etc. Much more expensive than in the USA so we were subsidising CD sales in the US and far East. Why? The answer is of course obvious.
But if you have carved up an area of the market that accepts higher pricing then you will move heaven-and-earth to protect it. Remember a 10% price hike is a much larger hike in profit.
So I expect than HDT has had to sign an agreement with SONY/Universal etc to only sell in the US. They can of course glibly quote reasons like local taxes etc but we all know the reason. Even if it does promote piracy, nobody can prove that to the shareholders who will be more interested in things like profit margins. In business profit margins are seen as some sort of holy signal from the board.
So they are not shooting themselves in the foot they are shooting us in the wallet.
Oops I forgot to add that it is nothing to do with Intellectual Property Right why you can't buy a Rolling Stones album from HDT in the UK. The Stones (or any other artists) will have a deal with their record company and that will apply wherever their albums are sold. Their rates may be determined nationally, although I know for a fact back when Polygram were around that their rates were global apart from one or two exceptions, mainly where currency transactions were an issue.
If it was anything to do with IPR then you wouldn't be able to buy 'Sticky Fingers' from Amazon now, would you?
Big Bill - you do realise you are arguing with an IP laywer here?
I simply explained why IP rights are separate from the free movement of goods issue. This is so that businesses can make more money by splitting the market geographically, as you say.
If you want me to analyse a particular license agreement for you, you will need to supply me with the license and pay me.
Big Bill - you do realise you are arguing with an IP laywer here?
I simply explained why IP rights are separate from the free movement of goods issue. This is so that businesses can make more money by splitting the market geographically, as you say.
If you want me to analyse a particular license agreement for you, you will need to supply me with the license and pay me.
So are you saying it is to do with IPR or not. Why am I not breaking IPR using Amazon but I am with HDT? Sorry to question your great knowledge of the subject but I would like to know.
I was on a contract in 1980s (I guess) before Seagram bought PolyGram and certainly they at that time had largely global contracts. I know that because that was what the system we designed and programmed for them managed.
ps It didn't seem to me that you were saying that IPR are separate from the free movement of goods issue, I thought that was what I was saying.
Perhaps you can explain how the para "Mike-B - there is an exception to free movement of goods when IP rights are involved. These rights are still national. It enables the rights holder to grant licenses to different people in different countries." explains why they are separate - or is it legal jargon?
pps No need for the sarcastic last para btw, I have no intention of paying you a brass razoo!
Amazon may have signed an agreement with the rights holder which is different to that signed by HDT? Just a guess.
Maybe I should stop trying to be helpful here.
Amazon may have signed an agreement with the rights holder which is different to that signed by HDT? Just a guess.
Maybe I should stop trying to be helpful here.
Sorry Dozey but I still don't see how your original post said what you later claimed it said. I had no intention of offending anyone. I may not be a lawyer but I do know that "IP rights are separate from the free movement of goods issue". But as I said I cannot see how your original post said that - that's all.
Sorry if my first post was confusing. It still reads ok to me, but all I meant to say was that there is currently a tension between the free movement of goods and IP rights. The first concept does not override the second (at the present time). The first is governed by EU law, the second by national laws. It is a rare case where the EU law does not take presidence.
Sorry if my first post was confusing. It still reads ok to me, but all I meant to say was that there is currently a tension between the free movement of goods and IP rights. The first concept does not override the second (at the present time). The first is governed by EU law, the second by national laws. It is a rare case where the EU law does not take presidence.
OK, I'll let you off.
So Dozey under EU law is it legal to have IP rights separated within EU territories - or is it one of this ambiguous situations that is just waiting to be challenged in court?
Simon
J
Jude.
By definition the asus is quicker than the extreme for all users not just me.
I do not require time machine back up. However I was specifying the fact that it will happily do it. Another reason to consider it over the time capsule, which is slower and has less facilities.
Its neither here nor there, if you are happy with an extreme, happy days. For users wishing to purchase a router get the asus, as its a 'no brainer'
Maybe I should stop trying to be helpful here.
No good deed goes unpunished.
But isn't the exclusive territorial distribution of IP exploiting/abusing a dominant position?
But isn't the exclusive territorial distribution of IP exploiting/abusing a dominant position?
+1 and then some!!!