What Router are you using?

Spot on!

It is indeed a dominant position. But exercising the IP right is not an abuse of that position!

An abuse would be refusing to license some people to punish them whilst licensing others, or tying the license to the supply of non-patented consumables.

You are allowed to exploit your monopoly for profit, otherwise pirates could profit from your work. If you are capable of supplying the market in a particular geographical area, refusing to license anyone else is not an abuse - you are simply exercising your IP right. 

Thanks for your explanation Dozey,  but I am not saying "oh OK", 

Its unacceptable for a number of reasons (& the following is not aimed at you) 

Whatever can or cannot be done legally, such IP restrictions applied by the record co's or distribution orgs is only causing a pent up demand.  But the restrictions they have in place are so full of loopholes & what seems poorly applied or futile even laughable I really have to question what they believe they are achieving.

It really is sticking head in sand. Market restrictions & price controls cause pent-up demand & no matter how it’s done will always cause the market to seek alternatives around the problem. Pirate copies are one way, IP hiding is another, clubs & friends “loaning” each other’s files another.

Wake up whoever needs to get this farce fixed.    

Dozey

Thanks - well you have prompted me to look into this a bit more - and its a mess isn't it - and lots of tensions and conflicts between varying EU rights.

It looks like from inexperienced eyes the 1996 WIPO Copyright Treaty set the way of the dominate economic rights over the freedom of expression - but there was a UN drive (at a  significant Geneva plenary?) to reform WIPO to redress the balance to share information and creative property in a less restrictive basis?

The EU in turn has tried to resolve the conflicts - and the one I saw that seemed to me relevant is.. 

001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonization of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society

However this seems to allow member states to adopt it as they see fit (my interpretation) and so is failing to address the issue?

One thing I do notice, if I understand correctly,  is that lending and therefore sharing of IP in the EU is seen as a significant right - and therefore it could be streaming Qobuz / Spotify style is less problematic than purchasing copy.

Interestingly I note I think correctly that in the US the IP rights are with the rights owner (i.e. could be a publisher), where as in the EU IP rights and commercial exploitation reside  with both the current owner (i.e. publisher)  and the original creator (i.e. author)

So in short to my in experienced eye the mess may exist for a long time for the IPR pertaining to artistic works - but I guess it keeps you busy?  

Simon

Mike - I find it frustrating too. All I want is to be able to get hi res copies of stuff like everyone else. Still, the law adapts with time and so does the market. Having a demand which is not being supplied can hopefully only be a temporary inconvenience in a capatalist society!  

Simon - A for effort! The copyright is owned by the author or the commissioner of the work at the start, but you can contract to have any party as right holder. I am not an expert on US copyright, which may be different. The whole legal framework is trying to come to terms with copyright in the age of the internet where geography is virtual!

Guilty as charged m'lud,  on all counts

I bought some on www when I was in US 3 weeks ago using my UK PayPal acc & "parked" them ready for download to my PC when I returned home. 

We had better get back to the "What Router" thread,  we will be charged with thread robbery on top of the indictment for IP infringements.   

It's not the purchaser who is violating IPR, it'd be the seller.  Amazon and HDTracks do not sell the identical "works" (version) of the music.  The owner of the works has licensed HDTracks to sell one version, and Amazon another.  That's one reason why Amazon might sell one version in one set of countries, and HDTracks will not / cannot sell another version in that same set of countries.

(Additionally, I am not sure whether "Amazon" is licensed as a singular entity, or on a country-by-country basis as well.  Amazon.com is not identical to Amazon.co.uk  )

On the home networking issues, I'm still quite happy with my Apple Time Capsule and Airport Extreme for creating a robust home wifi network.  That's really all I use it for -- home wi fi.  These two pair up better for me than any other router / extender combo I've tried.  Plus our Apple computers and iOS devices setup very easily and automatically; they play together VERY well.

Mike do I not own this thread as it was me who started it.

So I say you can talk about anything you want.  Such as, I was just watching that program 'Catchphrase' today and that blond fit bird who looks after the boards had the tightest leopard skin dress you have ever seen.   Big Bill faints away..........

Mike I have just tried your Tor system and it seems to work OK, HFT now offers me the facility to download but I haven't yet gone further than that.  I will!

btw it does slow my browsing down a lot.  If I go to HDT with no Tor then the thumbnails are pretty instantaneous in HDT but via the Tor browser it takes ages to get a page of them down.  But hey, who cares!

I get the weirdest thing on my BT HH2 and it has now happened quite a few times.

The BT HH2 has 2 connections at the back (1) one to the WAN (2) one to a switch.  Nothing else!

Now twice in quick succession my system has gone down.  I lose connection to the net and I also lose connection to my NAS, which remember is not connected directly to the BT HH2 but to a switch connected to it.

That all sounds fine but it is what cures it that is baffling.  If I now reset the BT HH2 and wait until all its blue lights come on then everything can now connect.  I don't touch the NAS, I don't touch the switch just the BT HH2.

Should add that the PC I am using is not using WiFi, it is also connected into the switch that my NAS connects to - via another switch.

Yes bill, your router is shit. 

I can put it in capitals if you like?

The switch does not provide routing. If you are lucky and the router goes down if the devices on the switch are happily chugging away with an ip they can keep going for a while, but ultimately they need a router (that is not shit)

Seems like you found the same slo-o-o-w page build Big Bill,  thats a relief in that it does the same to all,  I was questioning my router (again) but when I called a buddy who also uses Tor he says the same, its slow,  & he has an Asus.

Whatever,  on my line & PC Tor is deffo slower than most if not all of the other IP hiding progs I've tried ......  I am not convinced - yet.   W.I.P. methinks 

I've just been reading up on how Tor works,  no wonder its slow.  It's heavily encrypted & links your connection through & around hundreds if not thousands of servers so your IP is lost under a mountain of data.   

It can get you onto any website in the world & by-pass all & every sort of controls & the political restrictions such as exist in some countries.  You can also stumble on some very dodgy stuff as well. - so watch out.  

Mike

Have you tried Hola!

That works for me and doesn't seem to overly slow up my browser.

Yes,  they are much like all the rest IMO.  

They are all faster than Tor & Jap

But I'm done buying albums for a month or two,  so I've uninstalled what I had (I don't trust 'em) until I need to hide my IP again,  & ya never know,  maybe something better will be available.   

Bill, 

If I were you I would bin the HH and buy something like a netgear wireless N300 router with DSL modem for adsl (BT) (about £45).  I've used one for 4 years to stream HD TV and hires audio and have no problems whatsoever.

others have recommended using separate DSL modems and routers and I wouldn't argue with that approach but the single Netgear box works fine for me.

Good luck, 

Philip

Yeah it definitely slow you right down, but it is very easy to use and you don't have to install any software that operates on a low level on your PC.  One of the reasons I have not tried some of the other solutions.

I am sure last time I used HDTracks I just made the purchase from an american account then paid via my normal paypal. Worked fine without all the shenanigans

Yes bill, your router is shit. 

I can put it in capitals if you like?

Funny I hadn't figured that out.

The switch does not provide routing. If you are lucky and the router goes down if the devices on the switch are happily chugging away with an ip they can keep going for a while, but ultimately they need a router (that is not shit

Yes I am very much aware that a router and a switch are not the same thing.  But I do not need a router to access my NAS and I lose access to my NAS when the hub goes AWOL.  If I power down the router I can happily access my NAS and printers.  Yes I realise that because I am using, for my PCs and streamer anyway, dynamic ip addresses, I need my router at startup and to access the internet.  But I was just surprised that a lost my access to my NAS.

Thanks Philip - yup I am gonna have to do something.  It's been a bit of a nightmare today and I must get up off my fat backside and do something.

Presumably your router will either be fixed or DHCP either way its look for a way back to the router, you would for instance on a manual address give it an IP, subnet mask and the router IP address. You may have specified DNS addresses or the router may provide.

It might be that the DNS addresses were being provided by the router.

I understand you frustration as I have experienced this when the internet goes down but otherwise everything should be working lan side, yet it all manages to go tits up, I suspect because of DNS with multiple devices trying to understand its way in a dark world haha.

Meant to say nas is fixed or dhcp sozz

Hi, garyi,

As I said on a different thread, thanks for pressing us to shift router duties off the modem; it fixed my NDX network issues.  I have ordered an Asus router to try on your recommendation, and based on my own research.

Do you, or does anybody here, have experience with the Meraki MR12/MR18 etc. by Cisco?  Not that much more money.  Overkill?  (What exactly is "overkill" to a Naim customer?)

Thanks again.

Nick

nick, i have used smallnetbuilder as a source for advice on routers, they have most listed with fixed style testing for clear comparisons.