Hoopla Recent "Upgrade"
Posted by: Don Atkinson on 10 July 2014
Well, a few days ago, Richard said that Hoopla had experienced a few problems with their recent changes, so I presume the site has been upgraded.
I could have sworn that I was previously recorded as having joined this honourable forum on the 17th March 2001. I now find I joined on 3/17/2001 - when was that ???? (there are only 12 months in a year) and the only way I can get "honourable" to appear without a red line beneath it is to spell it as "honorable".
I thought Naim (*) was now a French company, or was it some North American outfit that pumped in the new equity ?
(*) even "Naim" gets underlined in red when I type a post !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but at least "Bentley" doesn't get the red flag
Try Sc_unthorpe. That always got banned for some reason!
ATB from George
Yes George. I can see a problem with automatic censoring. A bit like one of Mike Lacey's alsias's used to cause the censor to shake itself to pieces. but...............
............IMHO a British company should insist that its spell-checker uses the OED or similar and NOT some American version. And the same with dates.
Who's running this show ? Naim, or .........?
Gets more and more Hoopless as it ages.
Don Atkinson
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Joined: 17.3.2001 10:00
Last Visit: 11. heinäkuuta 2014 at 1:13
Don,
Hoop La are a US company. The forum is hosted in California. Therefore when dates are put in short form, they are in the US style with month, day, year instead of day, month, year. For all my years spent in the US, I never quite got used to that. You may argue about why the American's do it that way all you like...
Richard,
I know. I was being deliberately naive. But then Microsoft is also an American outfit and even even they manage to provide an option to use dates the correct way and likewise their spell-checker can be set up to mimic the OED rather than George W Bush !
Now, if I was posting on the Krell Forum, that would be a different matter...................
Don Atkinson
Member
Joined: 17.3.2001 10:00
Last Visit: 11. heinäkuuta 2014 at 1:13
Huh ! You are right !
I am absolutely certain that when I looked last night, my joining date was written as 3.17.2001.
Even my last visit looks right now. and i'm sure I wasn't drinking last night
Even "Honourable" and "Naim" have lost their red underlines today.
Either i'm going mad, or Hoop La is on top form.............No ! i'm not inviting a vote on this.....
If the company had any regard for it's foreign (to them) users they would have built in options for date spelling etc. Leaving these out says more about them than words can.
Is there really no one on this side of the pond that can supply these facilities at a reasonable cost?
Hoop La are a US company. The forum is hosted in California. Therefore when dates are put in short form, they are in the US style with month, day, year instead of day, month, year. For all my years spent in the US, I never quite got used to that. You may argue about why the American's do it that way all you like...
As to the American convention, you may have to look no further than the Declaration of Independence. The header of that document reads "In Congress, July 4, 1776."
Or maybe that was the convention of the day and Americans have simply stuck to it?
Hoop La are a US company. The forum is hosted in California. Therefore when dates are put in short form, they are in the US style with month, day, year instead of day, month, year. For all my years spent in the US, I never quite got used to that. You may argue about why the American's do it that way all you like...
As to the American convention, you may have to look no further than the Declaration of Independence. The header of that document reads "In Congress, July 4, 1776."
Or maybe that was the convention of the day and Americans have simply stuck to it?
Probably the same with the US Gallon (its smaller than the Imperial gallon), and one or two other weights and measures ?
And who invented that American accent ? Shakespeare ?
Anyway, with dates, Day/Month/Year is far more logical. Imagine trying to navigate with Minutes/Degrees/Seconds
Wasn't there a saying along the lines of "two nations separated by a common language" ?
And who invented that American accent ? Shakespeare ?
That American accent. Wikipedia identifies six regional dialects in the US, and as many as seven accents within any dialect. Of course, as any native born American will tell you, I don't have an accent .
As for the date convention, I agree that the US format is not logical. It is, however, unique, as the map shows.
.......... Of course, as any native born American will tell you, I don't have an accent .
............ the US format is not logical. It is, however, unique, as the map shows.
I just got back from 3 weeks in US & lost track of how many times my wife & I were told we have cute accents. My wife was most frequently accused of being Australian rather than English.
Wonder why the Americans call their independence day Fourth of July ???
A good question given my reference above to the Declaration of Independence. Likely because it sounds a bit more proper and befitting of a special occasion. Notwithstanding the 4th of July, our date format reflects the way we say our dates in common language. If you ask me, my birthday is January 8. No doubt Elvis would have responded in kind, but maybe not David Bowie.
I hope you enjoyed your US travels on the West Coast. There is generally little variation in dialect there. Had you gone to the Eastern Seaboard or the Southern States I'm sure you would have noticed a different accent. Thanks to the four lads from Liverpool, I can readily discern scouse from the Standard English .
I used to work in US Joerand, a phase book was useful for some places around those southern states.
But its the same with accents around England & I am not including Liverpool in that, Liverpool has an easy accent, get into the dialects & localisms & it gets real tough, its another language.
.......... Of course, as any native born American will tell you, I don't have an accent .
............ the US format is not logical. It is, however, unique, as the map shows.
I just got back from 3 weeks in US & lost track of how many times my wife & I were told we have cute accents. My wife was most frequently accused of being Australian rather than English.
Wonder why the Americans call their independence day Fourth of July ???
A very friendly but rather intense lady who was selling her paintings on the beachfront at Santa Barbara commented that I had a cute accent. Putting on my most pompous tone I explained it was her, not myself, who had an accent; I spoke the queen's english. She apologised profusely and looked really embarrassed. Don't think she quite got my sense of humour.
American accent: closest thing to Elizabethan English, depending on English county of origin.
Isn't it 'Hoop.la'?
One of my roommates in college was English, so I learned at an early age to appreciate his rather subtle, and often acerbic sense of humor. It was regularly lost on others, as I recall many times him glancing my way with raised eyebrows as if to say, why do you get the joke and they don't?
Despite our dysfunctional immigration system, most people still think of America as a great melting pot of immigrants, with a high degree of multi-cultural interaction...but it's not. It's more of a salad bowl, and the radishes don't often mix well with the endives. And as for those bacon bits, everyone knows they have absolutely no place in a proper salad!
ATB.
Hook
Glancing again at the world map, I have to wonder whether in 30 years time we won't all be using the gold colored format (yyyy-mm-dd) representing China .
In that case, the illogical American format of month before day will be vindicated .
The yyyymmdd format is the sensible as it can be sorted without having to do any analysing of the data-string
The yyyymmdd format is the sensible as it can be sorted without having to do any analysing of the data-string
True. and if you add hhmmss in sequence, the sorting can be further refined.
Does Excel have a function to enable the time interval to be calculated between two date/time events eg between 20140713104530 and 19530105163015 ?
Oh god not another thread of people talking techno bollox?
Oh god not another thread of people talking techno bollox?
Dreadfully sorry old bean !
That would be the time interval between (in the example) 4:30 pm (and 15secs) on 5th January 1953 and "shortly after (30 secs) quarter to 11 on the morning of 13th July this year.
In other words..........."how old are you ?"
Is this new update responsible for the bug I'm getting here ? Whenever I click on a new post I get a blank page... then I have to click on the last page and scroll down. I know, it's insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but annoying.
Jan
Edit : just discovered the *New* button... that seems to do the trick. Doh.
Bistromatic drive for a space ship, is a great use of the mathematics of the restaurant bill.
It never adds up to the total even when each individuals part of the meal is correct, and the final bill is correct.
I did not watch any of it [FIFA World Cup] either, and I don't care who won!
I know Murray got knocked out of Wimbledon though.
Equally I have no idea who won the Grans National or the Boat Race ...
ATB from George