Noise complaints

Posted by: Paper Plane on 25 August 2014

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-28838947

 

I have very little sympathy (ie none) for anyone who complains about noise after they have moved into a property from a source that was there before they arrived.

 

It doesn't matter if it's a live music or club venue or a railway line (preserved or BR), if it was there before you moved in and you didn't do your research beforehand, I don't see how you can have the brass neck to complain. Either live with it or move.

 

steve

Posted on: 26 August 2014 by Steve J

Hear. Hear. Or should that be pardon, pardon?

Posted on: 26 August 2014 by mista h

Spot on PP.  Some years back a load of yuppy residents in the back streets around Fulham Football ground started trying to get a petition up to have the ground shut down due to matchday noise.

As it was pointed out to these stuck up cretins the stadium has been around over 100 years long before they moved in.

Even more crazy 2 years ago when the club applied for planning permission to have a 2nd tier added to our Riverside stand the objections came in from all and sundry. The most stupid was from some tin pot sailing club across the river who claimed that a 2nd stand would change the way the wind blew up the Thames and would reek havoc with their sailing. W---ers.

That said one thing that i would want to check out when me and Boss lady move is what are your new neighbours like. Would hate to move in next to a couple who play lound music or have regular parties that go on into the small hours.

Mista h

Posted on: 26 August 2014 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by mista h:

Spot on PP.  Some years back a load of yuppy residents in the back streets around Fulham Football ground started trying to get a petition up to have the ground shut down due to matchday noise. +1 Agreed

As it was pointed out to these stuck up cretins the stadium has been around over 100 years long before they moved in. +1 Agreed

Even more crazy 2 years ago when the club applied for planning permission to have a 2nd tier added to our Riverside stand the objections came in from all and sundry. -1 "all and Sundry" are right to object - Next you'll be asking for a 3rd tier or a mega car park or a licence to hold Cliff Richard concerts. The most stupid was from some tin pot sailing club across the river who claimed that a 2nd stand would change the way the wind blew up the Thames and would reek havoc with their sailing. W---ers.I presume their claim was a lie ?

That said one thing that i would want to check out when me and Boss lady move is what are your new neighbours like. Would hate to move in next to a couple who play lound music or have regular parties that go on into the small hours. No doubt your new neighbours will get to vote whether to let you buy/move-in or to ban you from comming within 10 miles ?

 

Posted on: 26 August 2014 by Mike-B

My village had a couple move into a house - next to the church ......

 

Within a week they complained about the bells

- friday evening practice

- saturday afternoon weddings,  normally one or two per month, sometimes more than one in a day

- the clock striking each hour between 7 am & 10pm

Also noise of lawn mower maintaining the (sizable) grave yard, on Saturday,  why can't the volunteer (with a full time job) do it during the week while they were not at home.

 

Needless to say they did not fit in, they expected it to be quiet !!!!

(well at least their neighbours were)  They eventually left for quieter & more accommodating pastures in the city

- such a shame,  we all raised a glass to wish them well (not)

Posted on: 26 August 2014 by tonym

Over the years we've had a number of "townies" move into our rural neighbourhood seeking their bucolic idyll. Our poor old local farmer has been hit by all sorts of daft complaints - the smell, flies, noise from the combine harvester, sheep, pigs, cattle, mud on the lane. Vegitation in the lane too high/short. He's developed a sympathetic nod, mumbled promises about how he'll get round to it, and after a while they either settle down or move away.

 

Unlike him, when these folk have moaned to me (seeking my support presumably) I've been known to be less than polite.

Posted on: 26 August 2014 by Tony Lockhart
Tony, you mean nobody else has been surrounded and threatened by that vicious flock of cats just up the road? That was a terrifying insight into the ancient traditions and horrors of Suffolk country life:

http://youtu.be/Y8r5UkM-oOA

Years later and the nightmares still occur.
Posted on: 27 August 2014 by tonym

Frankly I was surprised you managed to get away. They usually eat strangers. 

Posted on: 27 August 2014 by mista h
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:
Originally Posted by mista h:

Spot on PP.  Some years back a load of yuppy residents in the back streets around Fulham Football ground started trying to get a petition up to have the ground shut down due to matchday noise. +1 Agreed

As it was pointed out to these stuck up cretins the stadium has been around over 100 years long before they moved in. +1 Agreed

Even more crazy 2 years ago when the club applied for planning permission to have a 2nd tier added to our Riverside stand the objections came in from all and sundry. -1 "all and Sundry" are right to object - Next you'll be asking for a 3rd tier or a mega car park or a licence to hold Cliff Richard concerts. The most stupid was from some tin pot sailing club across the river who claimed that a 2nd stand would change the way the wind blew up the Thames and would reek havoc with their sailing. W---ers.I presume their claim was a lie ?

That said one thing that i would want to check out when me and Boss lady move is what are your new neighbours like. Would hate to move in next to a couple who play lound music or have regular parties that go on into the small hours. No doubt your new neighbours will get to vote whether to let you buy/move-in or to ban you from comming within 10 miles ?

 

Move very much on hold. Plan was to buy a house on the Thames in the Shepperton area,but after last winters floods that is now a non starter.

Mista h

Posted on: 27 August 2014 by Jota

Seems like the venue have been telling porkies.

 

http://complainant24.blogspot....iew-application.html

Posted on: 27 August 2014 by maze

Yes but what about our predicament? We purchased a new build house, one of five opposite a run down pub that was on it's last legs. We did all the usual checks, visiting a various times of the day and night, all was well. The way pubs are closing not much to worry about. There were no noise or parking issues we could see so we purchased. Within a few weeks suddenly the place came alive, Loud and I mean LOUD music Friday, Saturday and Sunday into the early hours, parking on yellows, on pavements, parking anywhere actually.

To be fair to the council and local police have done a good job and have been sympathetic and have made a difference. Late night music is restricted, not stopped just a lower volume, parking issues come and go, it's not ideal but there is a compromise of sorts. Bearing in mind this is also a semi rural location. The pub in question has been tarted up so looks a lot better. I am the last person that wants to see pubs close. It wouldn't be too bad if they played decent music, just boom, boom boom music for the lowest common denominator.

The pub has a car park yet the punters seem to think it's ok to leave their cars anywhere but.

Rant over. 

Posted on: 27 August 2014 by Paper Plane
Originally Posted by Jota:

Seems like the venue have been telling porkies.

 

http://complainant24.blogspot....iew-application.html

That's as maybe but the general principle still holds.

 

steve

Posted on: 27 August 2014 by Don Atkinson

The specific principle holds, but only when the original occupancy of a venue " doesn't change significantly".

 

If I moved into a house next door to a quiet country pup, I'd feel entitled to object if that pub subsequently introduced Friday night and Saturday night discos complete with loud "music" until the early hours and hundreds of punters parking all over the neighbourhood and reving up engines as they drive away at 3am !!

 

If I moved into a house next door to a night club, i'd accept their existing "charms"

Posted on: 27 August 2014 by winkyincanada

People learn from a young age that the world contains people who complain about noise. Complaining about those complaining people seems ridiculous to me.

Posted on: 28 August 2014 by maze
Originally Posted by Char Wallah:

It's a trendy w@@@er pub ! 

 

 

If only it was. They are advertising a new menu though. I think they have thought up a new way to cook chips!

Posted on: 28 August 2014 by Huge

Maze,

The question is, "Did the pub have an entertainment license?"  If they did then you were just unlucky that someone revived the pub to carry on it's former business.  If not then they will / would need to have applied for one and that's when the objection should be / have been raised.  It's a valid reason for objection (but won't always win).  If they regularly break the terms of their licence, then you have a much stronger case for revocation (but sadly councils rarely do this).

Posted on: 28 August 2014 by maze
Originally Posted by Huge:

Maze,

The question is, "Did the pub have an entertainment license?"  If they did then you were just unlucky that someone revived the pub to carry on it's former business.  If not then they will / would need to have applied for one and that's when the objection should be / have been raised.  It's a valid reason for objection (but won't always win).  If they regularly break the terms of their licence, then you have a much stronger case for revocation (but sadly councils rarely do this).

Huge I would imagine the premises had a licence prior, unfortunately for us, our error. We seemed to have gotten to a compromise of sorts.

its not the first pub I have lived close to, my first house was close to a pub and we never had an issue so it seemed at the time like wise here at first.

if it was a pub with live jazz or a more cultured music form I could take it more in my stride, unfortunately it's not.

its got better and we have learned to live together more harmoniously.