What are you listening to and WHY might anyone be interested? (Vol. XI)
Posted by: Richard Dane on 31 December 2014
On the cusp of 2015, we start a new thread...
Anyway, links:
Volume X: https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...-be-interested-vol-x
Volume IX: https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...16#22826037054683416
Volume VIII: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...nt/12970396056050819
Volume VII: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...6878604287751/page/1
Volume VI: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878604097229
Volume V: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878605140495
Volume IV: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878605795042
Volume III: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878607309474
Volume II: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878606245043
Volume I: https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/1566878607464290
Franz Schubert: András Schiff (playing on his Franz Bormann, Vienna, c. 1820 Fortepiano)
Ungarische Melodie in B minor, D 817
Piano Sonata in G major, D 894
Moments musicaux, D 780
Allegretto in C minor, D 915
Impromptus, D 935
Piano Sonata in B flat major, D 960
To put in to words my opinion on this album is difficult. I want very much to like the 'sound' world of the Fortepiano played on here. For curiosity sake; for education sake; for hardcore tradition sake; for the sake of style; all valid positions and very interesting in themselves. Like looking at a century old photograph or a leaf/ flower found in an old family bible that your great grandmother put there. This brings a sense of nostalgia that is very special to experience and cannot be reverse engineered.
However, in the case of a preserved leaf you would never want (or need) to modernize it. You cannot improve upon it and it is the fact that there is a special link to your past that is the special aspect that would hold one in nostalgic bliss anyway.
In the case of a very old photo, I do not think you would want to replace that either but there is a stronger case today for wishing for both; a current photo to go alongside the historic one (if this were possible). The old photo for nostalgic reasons and the current photo for a more realistic sense of meaning that we could relate to in current times.
I think in the end this is how I would characterize this type of recording. One that is of value and very interesting to me but this is not a sound world (at least at this point in life) that I desire to listen to on a daily basis. I would not endorse the majority of modern (meaning the past century) piano recordings either as necessarily having the perfect sonics or outcome either though. Based on sound alone, there is a rather small field of candidates that get it very close to being pleasing (for me). But when one does find a modern recording that does it right then there is no going back anymore. This spoils all the arguments for style and tradition and in my opinion does more for the musical understanding and my emotional response than hearing the same on an historic instrument that simply has major shortcomings and lacks pleasing attributes.
It was really only a few decades after Schubert's death in 1828 that piano develop finally came in to its own. Very little has changed in piano development since 1840/1850 because at this point and onwards most every composer composed for and played on a grand piano.
The recording quality is very good here as usual for ECM. Schiff is Schiff. The music is still there as Schubert can only be. The sum of the parts though add up to the whole though only and does not exceed the whole simply due to the sound world of the chosen instrument.
In general I would write down the same type of review for a fortepiano piece. This one however has a couple of pieces which sound quite good now.
I'm in the mood for this album with the rain pouring outside ATM.
Oh dear, sorry to learn it's raining down there Steve. Bright warm sunshine up here in The Lakes and listening to the magnificent Lauren Kinhan :-
Franz Schubert: András Schiff (playing on his Franz Bormann, Vienna, c. 1820 Fortepiano)
Ungarische Melodie in B minor, D 817
Piano Sonata in G major, D 894
Moments musicaux, D 780
Allegretto in C minor, D 915
Impromptus, D 935
Piano Sonata in B flat major, D 960
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In general I would write down the same type of review for a fortepiano piece. This one however has a couple of pieces which sound quite good now.
Hi Bert,
Can you let me know which pieces appeal to you the most? I've only listened to this once so far so I know after repeated listens that I will warm up a bit to it as well. This is usually the case....
Cheers,
Doug
Now this is really rather good indeed!
Heard them on Bandcamp. Downloaded a FLAC copy of album for all of about 3 quid (I feel guilty now, maybe should have contributed more!). Burned a CD and playing it now. Lovely stuff.
Disc 2 from this recently acquired box-set. Particularly like the version of Little Wing and live The Wind Cries Mary recording.
Between chores.
Empty house, so indulging.
G
One of the sexiest voices on today's opera scene, lyric soprano Christiane Karg.
EJ
Still in Suzanne Vega mood having seen her live on Thursday so I thought I'd dig out her first album.
For a change of mood. It's hard not to be seduced by the 'creamy' Avalon and then there's the hypnotic rhythm of While My Heart Is Still Beating

Franz Schubert: András Schiff (playing on his Franz Bormann, Vienna, c. 1820 Fortepiano)
Ungarische Melodie in B minor, D 817
Piano Sonata in G major, D 894
Moments musicaux, D 780
Allegretto in C minor, D 915
Impromptus, D 935
Piano Sonata in B flat major, D 960
Doug,
How does Staier's pianoforte sounds to you?
He plays
1996 Christopher Clarke Fortepiano copy of 1827 instrument by the Viennese maker Graf
This is one of the nicest sounding pianoforte I have heard and love his Impromptus, too.
Then we have Leiws with a modern Steinway with a plenty of ambient air and frequency reach but his macho Schubert sounds wrong to me.
For a change of mood. It's hard not to be seduced by the 'creamy' Avalon and then there's the hypnotic rhythm of While My Heart Is Still Beating
Yes, that's an easy record to like. Fond memories from a past life. I must get another copy....
Del Amitri, A Hat Full of Rain. Brilliant greatest hits album by one of the best groups I have ever seen live. Rare to see good strong song writers nowadays but Justin is a superb lyricist and the band are really tight live. Highly recommended. Flac via Audirvana/Hugo
Still in Suzanne Vega mood having seen her live on Thursday so I thought I'd dig out her first album.
I'm jealous, I'd love to see her live and I've loved that album since it first came out
Oscar Peterson: Cole Porter Song Book 1959 release.
This is a stereo 1960 issue.
I find Peterson's style to be too genteel somewhat gutless but keep buying his records.
I'd put him in the same bucket as Teddy Wilson/George Shearing.
Oscar Peterson: Portrait of Sinatra 1959 release.
Ever so swingy and swanky.

Franz Schubert: András Schiff (playing on his Franz Bormann, Vienna, c. 1820 Fortepiano)
Ungarische Melodie in B minor, D 817
Piano Sonata in G major, D 894
Moments musicaux, D 780
Allegretto in C minor, D 915
Impromptus, D 935
Piano Sonata in B flat major, D 960
Doug,
How does Staier's pianoforte sounds to you?
He plays
1996 Christopher Clarke Fortepiano copy of 1827 instrument by the Viennese maker Graf
This is one of the nicest sounding pianoforte I have heard and love his Impromptus, too.
Then we have Leiws with a modern Steinway with a plenty of ambient air and frequency reach but his macho Schubert sounds wrong to me.
Yes it's indeed a strange version. You can smoothen it with Mitsuko Uchida or Maria Jaoa Pires....
Afternoon In Paris. Atlantic 1267. Original pressing with black label. Recorded 1956. John Lewis piano, Sacha Distel guitar, Barney Wilen tenor sax, Pierre Michelot or Percy Heath bass, Kenny Clarke or Connie Kay drums.
2 x LP Warner Jazz : )
1
Nature (Wilderness) - Les Crane
Yesterday - Arif Marin
The Shadow of your Smile - Brother Jack McDuff
(Sittin' on) The Dock of the Bay - Cher
I'm Still Here - Young-Holt Unlimited
2
Heather - Billy Cobham
It's all in the Game - Brook Benton
Ode to Billie Joe - Booker T. & The MGs
Sometimes I Cry - Les McCann
3
Venga - The Chris Hinze Combination
How Can I Tell Him - Dionne Warwick
Daydream - Franck Pourcel
Nostalgia - Passport
4
Destination Paradise - Yusef - Lateef
The Bream Are Still Biting In February - Eric Quincy Tate
Come Together - Herbie Mann
Lady Euphoria - Harold Alexander
This compilation © Warner Music 2006
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A very underestimated compilation album imho,
nothing not to like or cheesy, a good super cool selection.
The SQ on the vinyl is fab too, glad i purchased this in the HMV sales 5 years ago for £4.99 : )
Streaming | Deezer Elite
(2014)
Thanks for the heads up dayjay, my first listen to this and really enjoying it.
This is a Great Album. Listen to it again and again it always has something else to offer.
Oscar Peterson Trio with Milt Jackson: Very Tall 1962 release