Best way to control Mac Mini

Posted by: Will99 on 18 January 2015

Hi, I'm awaiting delivery of a Mac Mini and was thinking about connecting it via HDMI to the tv (6m away) for control purposes. However I would still need an input device such as an iPad to select music, pause, skip, build playlists etc. which obviously has its own screen. So do most people just use an app to interface with iTunes (or Audirvana etc.) on their Mini ?
Posted on: 18 January 2015 by james n

Yes - i used iTunes remote on my iPad to control iTunes, and use a VNC app (or just screen share) in case i need to do anything on the mini. It only needs a monitor on first set up. 

Posted on: 18 January 2015 by blorbed

Hi, I use the Splashtop 2 remote app on my iOS and Splashtop streamer on my Mac mini, works great, and no need to tether my mini to the tv. Also available on Android.

 

I see Google have just released their chrome desktop app for iOS, allowing you to remotely connect with the Mac mini. Again available on Android.

 

 

Posted on: 18 January 2015 by GregU

I use the remote ap on my iPad or iPhone but I like screen share from my MBP better.  There is a $10 dongle that goes into the usb of mini that makes it work really smooth

Posted on: 18 January 2015 by aht

Greg--

 

Could you give me a product name or description of the "dongle"?  I'm using wireless screen sharing between my MBP and a Mini, and it's very sluggish.

Posted on: 18 January 2015 by GregU

I don't know what the name of the specific product is....it's not on the device but it is made by fit.pc       I got it on amazon  Also I errored.......it goes into hdmi port

Posted on: 18 January 2015 by GregU

I hope this is not against the rules but it is this

 

http://www.amazon.com/CompuLab...keywords=fit.pc+hdmi

Posted on: 18 January 2015 by Steve J
Originally Posted by Wat:

If you are plugging it into the TV using HDMI then a BlueTooth keyboard should work - it does for me. You get a much better interface on the TV than on a mobile device and can use the wonderful free Singer Song Writer app to get and display the lyrics as the song plays. Lots of AppleScripts around to further enhance the user interface - display Wiki Page with details of who plays what on what or display your own PDFs. 

 

Screen sharing from a Mac Book is the next best option - in fact as good if you have not gone HDMI to the TV 

 

Apple Remote also works, but is limited in functionality - you can get a VNC client, which does more, but I much prefer the BT Keyboard/Trackpad or Screen Sharing. 

+1 Screen Share gives full functionality. I also use Remote app on the iPad to play my music library through the MuSo. As Wat says though, it is limited to selecting tracks on iTunes, but that's all I need it for.

Posted on: 18 January 2015 by George J
Originally Posted by Wat:

If you are plugging it into the TV using HDMI then a BlueTooth keyboard should work - it does for me. You get a much better interface on the TV than on a mobile device and can use the wonderful free Singer Song Writer app to get and display the lyrics as the song plays. Lots of AppleScripts around to further enhance the user interface - display Wiki Page with details of who plays what on what or display your own PDFs. 

 

Screen sharing from a Mac Book is the next best option - in fact as good if you have not gone HDMI to the TV 

 

Apple Remote also works, but is limited in functionality - you can get a VNC client, which does more, but I much prefer the BT Keyboard/Trackpad or Screen Sharing. 

Except for using an HP monitor I also use a bluetooth keyboard [and mouse] to control my mini. 

 

Very straight forward and works a treat. Okay that the batteries do not last as long as I would like in the remote keyboard [and mouse], but that is the only downside. The MAC bluettoth keyboard is itself a thing of beauty, and would not look out of place in the simplest or most elegant surrounds.. It looks a bit posh here!

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 18 January 2015 by Steve J
Originally Posted by Wat:

Greg 

 

The CompuLab fit-Headless looks an amazing device - very clever technology; think I'll get one of those as it also available in the UK. Such a simple idea really - simplicity always appeals. 

 

Many thanks for the heads up

 

All the best, Wat 

I had one on order but when I heard Yosemite allowed hi res display with Screen Share I cancelled it.

Posted on: 18 January 2015 by GregU

I got mine before Yosemite.  It made a huge difference but with Yosemite I don't know if it helps.  Its been plugged into my mini for a while

Posted on: 18 January 2015 by garyi

For better advice you guys should explain what it is you are controlling on the mini. Also waht devices you have, phones etc. 

 

I have to say that a bluetooth keyboard, or VNC/Screen share is about the worse/last option.

Posted on: 18 January 2015 by George J

What is wrong with a bluetooth MAC keyboard?

 

Even as a complete computer numpty, I have never had a single problem with this method in three years of MAC mini use. Perhaps I am just lucky?

 

I control iTunes as well as general use of the computer for Forum and Emails, and editing photos with iPhoto, and so on. Probably I do not challenge the mini very much ...

 

I do use an iPod or anything else like an MP3-playing phone, but do use an HP printer occasionally.

 

Please explain what is wrong with just about the simplest solution? Simple is good isn't it?

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 18 January 2015 by garyi

George I suspect you use a mini in the traditional sense, i.e. its hooked up to a screen.

 

I am assuming the general questioning is coming from someone who ideally wants to use his mini 'headless' i.e. without a screen. Or the mini is connected to a TV across the room. HDMI into a TV is great for watching movies, but terrible for actual computer screen use as the pixels are large and there is not many of them.

 

There are some terrific solutions for such a scenario, you can even turn it to your advantage, for instance if you use itunes, and your mini is hooked up to a TV, control it with 'remote' on an iphone/ipad/ipod and have 'screensleeves' running on the mac. This kicks off a screen saver displaying the currently playing song, with glorious full res artwork.

 

In this context, a bluetooth keyboard and mouse is a mess. You either sit at the sofa awkwardly trying to use these devices intended for desktop use, or you have to be up closer to the TV looking at huge, lo res pixels.

 

Hense my question, what is it you want to control.

Posted on: 18 January 2015 by Will99

Thanks all for the advice and opinions.

 

My Mac Mini will have one use only - to play music through the DAC. I have a HP laptop and iPad for all other uses and don't own a Mac Book. For me, the only problem with the iPad is having to a) grab it off the wife / kids, b) remember to take it in to the listening room with me. I want something that will stay in the listening room and I want a bigger screen than on my phone.

I am happy using the touchscreen UI of n-stream and Sonos, and have to date only used iTunes for synching my iPod and not for playing music (but imagine that iTunes is a popular player for the Mac Mini). I don't even know if you need a keyboard for playing music through iTunes or if it works via touchscreen (or moving a cursor around a screen) i.e. without requiring a keyboard.

The TV would obviously fit the requirement of always being in the room, and was looking just now at the Apple Magic Trackpad - again attractive as it would only be used with the Mac Mini. Is that a good option ?

 

Posted on: 28 January 2015 by Will99

This is probably obvious to a lot of you, but alas not to me :-

Given that my Mac Mini and my TV will both be connected to the LAN via ethernet cable to a network switch, can this connection not be used to get the Mac Mini video output on the TV ?

Or what about video from the Mac Mini going to the TV wirelessly via DLNA ?

 

Happy to route an HDMI cable from Mac Mini to TV, but just trying to see if there are ways around this.

Posted on: 28 January 2015 by Deeg1234

Am not aware of option on Mac display settings so may need additional hardware, star tech make a HDMI over lan converter but never used one so cannot say how effective it is. 

Posted on: 28 January 2015 by Jude2012
@Will99

Check out the Mirror Display app for OS X from Phyar Studio (I've not used it).

HTH

Jude
Posted on: 29 January 2015 by Will99
Originally Posted by james n:

Yes - i used iTunes remote on my iPad to control iTunes, and use a VNC app (or just screen share) in case i need to do anything on the mini. It only needs a monitor on first set up. 

 

Originally Posted by blorbed:

Hi, I use the Splashtop 2 remote app on my iOS and Splashtop streamer on my Mac mini, works great, and no need to tether my mini to the tv. Also available on Android.

 

I see Google have just released their chrome desktop app for iOS, allowing you to remotely connect with the Mac mini. Again available on Android.

 

 

For initial set-up of the Mini, do I need a keyboard as well as a monitor ?

For set-up, it's no problem for me to plug the Mini in to a TV via HDMI, but I don't have a keyboard - unless I can somehow use the one on my HP laptop, or get the Splashtop 2 app working on my iPad for set-up ?

Posted on: 06 February 2015 by Will99
Originally Posted by james n:

Yes - i used iTunes remote on my iPad to control iTunes, and use a VNC app (or just screen share) in case i need to do anything on the mini. It only needs a monitor on first set up. 

 

Originally Posted by blorbed:

Hi, I use the Splashtop 2 remote app on my iOS and Splashtop streamer on my Mac mini, works great, and no need to tether my mini to the tv. Also available on Android.

 

I see Google have just released their chrome desktop app for iOS, allowing you to remotely connect with the Mac mini. Again available on Android.

 

 

I understand that either option above will allow me to see the Mac Mini display on my portable device, but do they also allow data entry or would I also need eg. a bluetooth keyboard for that ?

Posted on: 07 February 2015 by GregU

Just go to a local drugstore and buy a usb keyboard for a few bucks

Posted on: 07 February 2015 by Huge

For those using remote desktop apps, how many have configured the firewall in their broadband / cable router to block the relevant ports to prevent unauthorised access across the internet?