Oh no it won't.

Posted by: winkyincanada on 07 March 2015

"MH370 will be found"

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-31777060

Posted on: 07 March 2015 by Ingenius

I hope it will , for the sake of all those poor families

 

Posted on: 08 March 2015 by Don Atkinson

I'm surprised the cost is basically being covered jointly by Australia and Malaysia. I'm not sure why Australia is being so generous.

Posted on: 08 March 2015 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Ingenius:

I hope it will , for the sake of all those poor families

 

The best thing for the families would be to call the search off, and let them start to recover. It is simply cruel to prolong their false hope by continuing this pointless search.

Posted on: 08 March 2015 by George J

Quite

Posted on: 09 March 2015 by Don Atkinson

Perhaps a ballot amongst the relatives would be more appropriate.

 

For how long should we search ? How much should we spend ?

 

Might (just might !) come up with a different answer to Winky's humanitarian proposal.

Posted on: 09 March 2015 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:

Perhaps a ballot amongst the relatives would be more appropriate.

 

For how long should we search ? How much should we spend ?

 

Might (just might !) come up with a different answer to Winky's humanitarian proposal.

The relatives are free to continue to search for as long as they they think it worthwhile. What's your point?

Posted on: 09 March 2015 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:

Perhaps a ballot amongst the relatives would be more appropriate.

 

For how long should we search ? How much should we spend ?

 

Might (just might !) come up with a different answer to Winky's humanitarian proposal.

The relatives are free to continue to search for as long as they they think it worthwhile. What's your point?

My point is that you are telling the relatives what's good for them

 

"The best thing for the families would be to call the search off, and let them start to recover. It is simply cruel to prolong their false hope"

 

To my mind, this is rather presumptuous. I consider it would be more appropriate for those more closely affected to decide what's "best" for them.

Posted on: 09 March 2015 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:

Perhaps a ballot amongst the relatives would be more appropriate.

 

For how long should we search ? How much should we spend ?

 

Might (just might !) come up with a different answer to Winky's humanitarian proposal.

The relatives are free to continue to search for as long as they they think it worthwhile. What's your point?

My point is that you are telling the relatives what's good for them

 

"The best thing for the families would be to call the search off, and let them start to recover. It is simply cruel to prolong their false hope"

 

To my mind, this is rather presumptuous. I consider it would be more appropriate for those more closely affected to decide what's "best" for them.

As I said, they can continue to search. That's up to them. I'm not telling them anything, let alone what's "best", just offering my opinion.

 

I'd like to think that if was me who was personally affected, I would eventually see the bigger picture beyond my self-interest, accept the truth, and be happy for the resources being spent on what is almost certainly a fruitless search to be allocated where they could do some real good.

Posted on: 09 March 2015 by Don Atkinson

From the limited news coverage, ISTM that the relatives would prefer the search to continue rather than for it to be abandoned. Seems like you are content with their decision to continue with the search.

 

And the prime funders, Malaysian and Australian Governments seem willing and able to continue with the project as well, so money isn't a problem, at least, not at present.

 

So every body is happy. Especially since its not your personal wealth that is being used to cover the cost.

 

Of course, i'm sure there are people who would prefer to have a slice of that funding channeled in their direction, whether it be to provide food and fresh water, a mechanically re-chargeable radio, a Supernait or a Statement.

 

Perhaps you could start a charity to raise from relatively rich people an equivalent sum to that being spent on the search for MH370 and fund these alternatives to MH370 that you are so concerned about.

Posted on: 09 March 2015 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:

From the limited news coverage, ISTM that the relatives would prefer the search to continue rather than for it to be abandoned. Seems like you are content with their decision to continue with the search.

 

And the prime funders, Malaysian and Australian Governments seem willing and able to continue with the project as well, so money isn't a problem, at least, not at present.

 

So every body is happy. Especially since its not your personal wealth that is being used to cover the cost.

 

Of course, i'm sure there are people who would prefer to have a slice of that funding channeled in their direction, whether it be to provide food and fresh water, a mechanically re-chargeable radio, a Supernait or a Statement.

 

Perhaps you could start a charity to raise from relatively rich people an equivalent sum to that being spent on the search for MH370 and fund these alternatives to MH370 that you are so concerned about.

The Australian government is questioning the ongoing expenditure. I doubt there are many votes in it. Don't know about the Malaysian government.

 

It seems quite selfish to expect that public money is endlessly expended on finding "answers" or providing "closure" when the chance of that occurring is so close to zero as makes no difference. 

 

The amount being wasted on the search for MH370 has no bearing on my views with respect to charitable donations and support for fundraising. They are completely disconnected. I also have zero desire that a portion of that money be directed my way; just that it be used for something that isn't so completely pointless.

 

So, instead of raising money as some sort of "match" for the money currently being wasted on the search, why not withdraw public funding for the search and allows those who wish to do so, fund the ongoing work? Wouldn't that be fair?

Posted on: 10 March 2015 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:

It seems quite selfish to expect that public money is endlessly expended on finding "answers" or providing "closure" when the chance of that occurring is so close to zero as makes no difference.

 

So, instead of raising money as some sort of "match" for the money currently being wasted on the search, why not withdraw public funding for the search and allows those who wish to do so, fund the ongoing work? Wouldn't that be fair?

As I implied in my earlier post, I think there are more people interested in finding "answers" than just the relatives, the Malaysian gov and its airline for example. They are the ones willing to allocate resources. I also expressed surprise that the Australian gov were a prime funder.

 

My comments about the relatives were to counter-balance your presumption that you knew what was best for them.

Posted on: 11 March 2015 by Derek Wright

The Australian government are getting a good look at the sea bed not far from their patch. Many interesting things to study eg rock formations indicating the existence of interesting minerals / oils,  could be an intellectual goldmine in future.