Statement has landed

Posted by: Graham Clarke on 09 May 2015

So after three long months of waiting, my Statement preamp finally arrived yesterday.  I managed to do pretty well in being patient until we got down to around the last ten days…  This was the starting point:

 

 

Since my Statement home demo via UHES in January I’ve changed my two main interconnects to Super Lumina ones and have swapped out NAC A5 for Super Lumina, at a somewhat excessive cost, but with brilliant results. 

 

 

To answer a previous question asked on the Forum regarding how these speaker cables are tuned, it is down to the resistor used.  The resistor is soldered across the positive and negative cables and then surrounded in the metal box to protect it.  This provides the correct inductance that the power amps require.  The tuning is the value of the resistor and the type of resistor used (e.g. RS Components, Farnell etc).  Required values were determined for specific lengths via listening and then other lengths were calculated via a computer program.

 

Anyway, onto the day.  The plan was to check the torque settings on the S-600 speakers’ drive unit screws, break down, clean, tighten and reconfigure the Fraim racks, install the six Super Lumina DIN-XLR cables and oh, just add the Statement S-1 pre-amp to the mix, replacing the 552…

 

To complete this task we had four people.  Ian and Norman from UHES of course, plus Jason Gould and Mark Raggett directly from Naim.  It’s always enjoyable spending time with Ian and Norman but also getting to spend around four hours with Jason and Mark was the icing on the cake.

 

 

Ian first checked the speaker torque settings, which turned out to be fine since their last check nearly two years ago.  Given I purchased these as ex-demo speakers from UHES it’s probably no surprise that they had already bedded in and didn’t need further adjustment.

 

I wish I could say the same about the Fraim racks.  These were new a year ago and Ian had told me that I should check the tightness of the spikes after a few months because there is a degree of compression and expansion of the wood from new which will loosen them.  Having assumed that they would just be slightly loose combined with a degree of laziness and a manic work schedule I’m afraid I hadn’t bothered.  Well, when we broke down the power supply Fraim rack and lifted the base off the carpet, one of the spikes remained embedded in the concrete floor, to my embarrassment!  So YES, you really DO need to check these with newly built Fraim racks.

 

During this time break down time, Jason and Mark had man handled the S-1 flight case out of Mark’s car.  At least for the UK, these are delivered direct from the factory to the customer.  “Man handled” is the correct term given the 102Kg shipping weight but this was slightly easier than in January as the case now has detachable wheels.  Direct delivery is done to ensure that the unit turns up in 100% perfect condition both cosmetically and functionally.  This was of course not a problem with mine.

 

While they were busy doing this, I kept myself busy by taking a look at the long awaited DIN-XLR cables.

 

Anyone familiar with Powerlines or Hi-Lines will recognise the packaging.

 

 

 

As you can see, both ends use the Air-PLUG technology that the other Super Lumina cables use via a set of interconnecting metal rings.  The XLR canons are also metal, unlike the original ones.

 

Jumping forward slightly, the only glitch of the day was that when installing these cables into my Snaxo BMR, the far end of the Air-PLUG connectors on the top cable touch the one beneath.  When the system has bedded in I’ll have to see whether this actually makes an audible difference.

 

 

There was another box which was unexpected, this turned out to be the Statement accessory kit, the finish of which was beautiful.

 

 

There were three layers to this box with the top containing the manual and a spirit level.

 

 

The second layer in mine was empty given I had not purchased the Statement power amps.  Apparently I am the first person world wide that Naim have supplied with just the pre-amp, all other purchasers have gone for the complete system.

 

In the bottom layer of the box were a number of tools

 

 

Including some Statement Fraim chips (different from standard ones) and the remote control which is in the bag on the right.  This is constructed of metal and is similar in weight and feel to the NARCOM remote.

 

Given the NARCOM remote is £300, I dread to think how much a replacement one of these would be.  I better not lose it down the back of the sofa.

 

After completing the first Fraim rack, Jason and Mark unpacked the pre-amp.

 

 

Given the size, weight and space constraints this does need to be planned!  With the protective cover removed it finally appeared for the first time.

 

 

Even unpackaged this weighs 60Kg so moving into position isn’t an easy task.  This is what it looks like inside to help explain (no, this isn't mine!)

 

 

That's a lot of components!

 

Happily (for me) I left the task of moving to Mark.

 

 

No pressure there Mark, I’m sure you loved me taking pictures of you while you were doing this!

 

 

We agree not to put it flush up to the racks so that it could be easily cleaned.  Getting the position right, ensuring it was absolutely level and parallel with the left hand rack easily took 30 minutes such was the perfectionist nature of Ian and Mark. 

 

Installing the second Fraim was relatively straightforward after this, poor Ian was left to do this while everyone else chatted and watched on.  Jason commented that normally with home installs they get involved directly but knew that they could leave this to Ian given his expertise.  High praise indeed for UHES.

 

One added bonus of moving to two racks and separating them slightly is that cable dressing is now much better, with no Burndys touching the wall and all but a few cables off the floor.

 

 

Finally, after over four hours of work, everything was set up and listening was about to begin!

 

 

By now it was about 6:30PM and we had a dinner reservation for 7:30 as we were all hungry, so we only had limited listening time.  I wasn’t too worried about this because the pre-amp is brand new and stone cold, the DIN-XLRs are also new and the rest of the system would have cooled down, so my expectations weren’t too high.

 

From the first track there was a slight degree of harshness around the sound.  This was consistent with the from cold demo in January.  High frequencies were also a little tight and I’d say that the pre-amp and system in generally was probably only at around 50% of its full potential.  Despite that, some of the greatness from the January demo was already apparent: the super low noise floor (if it was any lower it would be sucking noise out of the room) along with the incredible detail and separation of every instrument being played.

 

Unfortunately Saturday obligations mean I won’t get to listen further until later in the afternoon, but both main sources have been left active playing into the system and with further warm up I’m expecting a big jump.  So you’ll have to wait a while longer for the clichés and superlatives.

 

More to follow and thanks for reading if you got this far.

 

 

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by jon h

Congrats DB - which of the two UK statement dealers are you using?

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by ken c:
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
Originally Posted by ken c:
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
Nearly full SL loom John, as we're both still waiting for that pesky Snaic supercap 4-4 cable!

 

 

Graham

 

have you had any more news on the 4-4 snaic active lead Graham? like price? availability? etc...

 

enjoy

ken

Nope.

 

I'm expecting £1,500 to £1,750 mark, maybe falling somewhere between the DIN-XLR and the DIN-DIN cables but that's a pure guess.

 

Haven't heard anything further on availability outside of what PS said last week.

 

thanks Graham. actually i would love to come over and listen to it once its delivered...

 

enjoy

ken

We'll sort something out!  Depending on the timing there might even be a Melco around, too.

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by Darke Bear:
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
Or you could side step the issue by going passive, flogging the 500s and buying NAP S1.  

I really think this is your destination Graham!

 

I want to remain Active and have not yet been sold on Passive bettering everywhere with a better Power Amp. Remaining Active and eventually, when my three NAP500 need a re-cap, getting the '009 statement tech trickle-down' uplift done is what I have in mind.

 

Since nobody has even heard that option, it may even be a better one. It is certainly less expensive for me. I also think there is more to come from the Snaxo we have not yet heard, so I don't think Active is in any way maxed-out.

 

Ok - I too your bait Graham.

 

DB.

Yeah, you took my bait, I was teasing you, I know your stance on active vs passive.

 

I think the odds of me going passive with NAP S1 is vanishingly small.  Upgrading to NAP 300 DR active is likely as far as I see myself going.

 

Graham

 

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by Darke Bear:

Also - to put my Dealer out of his misery - I've decided to buy the S1 Pre.

 

Please act surprised!

 

It is just too good at what it brings to my existing investment in my system.

 

I just listened to a few tracks I know well from Kate Bush's 'Kick Inside' - simple piano ballads.

I was struck by the fact I could hear the piano all the time she is playing and singing and hear little melodies I'd never noticed before. Before when she sang these merged into the background, but not now.

Her voice is now so clear and full - as if I'm used to hearing it surfing in and out of a fine veil of noise that is no longer there.

 

This is just one simple experience of far too many over the last few days that have put beyond doubt for me that I will gain a lot from the Statement S1 Pre.

 

...so another 'Statement landed'.

 

DB.

Congratulations!

 

To be honest, given how much of a jump it is over 552 I pretty much thought it was a foregone conclusion, so I'm not really surprised.

 

Hope you get many thousands of hours of happy listening out of it!

 

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by ken c:

Congratulations Gary! to some extent i sensed some inevitability about this. so i cant say i am surprised.

 

within the space of a few months, we have 2 KNOWN S1 owners in the UK. I suspect there will be/are more coming...

 

enjoy!!!

ken

I think there are at least 2 more full (pre and power) systems in the UK but likely they're not forum members, or keeping very quiet.

 

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Bert Schurink
Originally Posted by Darke Bear:

Also - to put my Dealer out of his misery - I've decided to buy the S1 Pre.

 

Please act surprised!

 

It is just too good at what it brings to my existing investment in my system.

 

I just listened to a few tracks I know well from Kate Bush's 'Kick Inside' - simple piano ballads.

I was struck by the fact I could hear the piano all the time she is playing and singing and hear little melodies I'd never noticed before. Before when she sang these merged into the background, but not now.

Her voice is now so clear and full - as if I'm used to hearing it surfing in and out of a fine veil of noise that is no longer there.

 

This is just one simple experience of far too many over the last few days that have put beyond doubt for me that I will gain a lot from the Statement S1 Pre.

 

...so another 'Statement landed'.

 

DB.

Congratulations, you will have increased your listening pleasure to the next level. It's a step I most probably will never be able to make. So I have to live with my "broken" 552 

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by jon honeyball:

After 18 months of trying, I have now managed to listen to Statement pre/power in a system and room setup truly up to the task, both in terms of source and in speakers. And in room design.

 

The pre/power combination is actually even better than I thought it could be. More to come anon.

Jon,

 

So when is the "more to come anon" actually coming then?

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by mikapoh

For those of you who already owned the S1, how long do you think these beasts will last you, a life time? Just curious.

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Harry

Congratulations and best wishes with it. 

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by james n
Originally Posted by mikapoh:

For those of you who already owned the S1, how long do you think these beasts will last you, a life time? Just curious.

 

 

 

 

 

Servicing costs could be 'interesting' although if you need to ask etc etc 

 

Congrats DB 

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by mikapoh:

For those of you who already owned the S1, how long do you think these beasts will last you, a life time? Just curious.

 

 

 

 

 

I would hope so.  I can't imagine Naim bettering this for quite some time and who knows much longer analogue preamps will last and whether the market will move towards digital ones like the Scottish company has done?

 

I had thought about servicing costs before purchase.  Well, tried not to think about servicing costs actually.  I suspect at this point Naim don't even know what the price will be.  Clearly not cheap though.

 

 

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Darke Bear
Originally Posted by Signals UK:

Stuff it, I'll break my self imposed forum exile after December's 'cablegate'

 

Typing is more difficult than I realised with all your fingers chewn off!

 

Fantastic news Gary. And thank you. Must admit that it does seem to be a rather magnificent piece of kit.  

My thanks to Signals for taking the big step in deciding to become a Statement Dealer and enabling be to have a no-pressure home demo.

 

All the pressure really came from within me as I struggled to justify the financial outlay - but every day of exposure to what this device allows to happen has gradually melted that concern away.

 

DB.

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Darke Bear
Originally Posted by Tabby cat:

Great news DB life's to short to hold back.When you tell non HiFi friends the cost they would be appalled, but spend the same on a car and no one bats an eyelid.

You must be going threw your music collection with a big grin.

Unusually for me I have been noticing myself smiling while listening! Not that I usually frown while listening, but the subconscious delight at what at special moments I'm hearing has been part of the journey to decision.

 

My old car will have to suffer-on a few more years, with luck. I spend far more quality time with the HiFi personally.

 

DB.

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Steve J

It guess it was inevitable Gary. I hope you enjoy many years happy listening with the S1. 

 

ATB

 

Steve

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Harry
Originally Posted by Wat:

can't understand why anybody wastes money on expensive cars 

It's because people like me can buy them three years later at around 20% of the original sticker price. Don't knock it

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Darke Bear

Thank you to all for the positive comments!

 

These kind of decisions are big and for me anyway, involved a lot of inner-wrestling with myself as to was it the right thing to do. As before mentioned, the 552 served me very well and I always delighted in its open dynamic rendition of music. The fact the Statement did so much more over and above this made the direction very clear and facilitated final decision.

 

DB.

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by tonym

I just knew you couldn't resist it Gary, but then you wouldn't be listening to one if you didn't plan to maybe buy one. And why not?

 

Hope to see you soon.

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Steve J
Originally Posted by Darke Bear:

Thank you to all for the positive comments!

 

These kind of decisions are big and for me anyway, involved a lot of inner-wrestling with myself as to was it the right thing to do. As before mentioned, the 552 served me very well and I always delighted in its open dynamic rendition of music. The fact the Statement did so much more over and above this made the direction very clear and facilitated final decision.

 

DB.

Inner wrestling? I would be so tied up in granny knots I don't think I'd recover. 

Seriously though, I've come to the conclusion that life is too short for certain decisions. I've decided not to consider the S1 ATM simply because I'm organising my finances for my impending retirement in a few years time. After I retire then I may reconsider. Who knows?

 

Play loud and proud.

 

Steve

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Darke Bear

Retirement is a bigger upgrade than Statement - just.

 

DB.

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by tonym

I've found that wrestling with yourself is pretty pointless and besides, once you've done the deed you forget about the cost and just enjoy what you've worked hard to be able to afford.

 

Being retired gives you the opportunity to enjoy stuff even more!

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Steve J
Originally Posted by Darke Bear:

Retirement is a bigger upgrade than Statement - just.

 

DB.

I agree. I'm intending to up sticks from the London area completely and move back to Devon, where I grew up, for a much simpler life of gardening, golf and fishing. Of course the choice of new house will have to take into consideration a decent listening room. 

 

Steve

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by FangfossFlyer

Sounds a great idea Steve!

 

I am looking forward to playing all my LPs from A to Z when the time comes!!!!

 

Richard

 

 

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Darke Bear
Originally Posted by Wat:
... but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. 

 

Retire as early as you can & enjoy your Statement for as many years as possible (should be a very long and enjoyable experience). 

I'm way ahead of you - similar experience of work that was fulfilling for 25 years, then awful 'non-people-centric' for the another 5 years; I took early retirement three years ago and I also wish I'd left a few years earlier, if I could have.

 

DB.

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by jon h

Signals is now a statement dealer? Congrats to them!

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by Signals UK

To be precise, I doubt that we count as Statement dealers. We do however, have the S1 pre-amp on dem. Ours is playing in the background now and I am beaming from ear to ear. It's far better than expected straight from the box even in a 'lowly' NDS / 500 / Titan context. We are aware of the probable bedding in trajectory too.

 

Will hook up the dansette later on to test vinyl out . . .

 

Whether we end up carrying the Full Monte Statement system, time will tell. Our existing customers have indicated that this would be a step too far for darkest Suffolk. As for DB and the S1, the conversations run back over 14 months to the mu-so launch night when I introduced him to Steve Sells. And we had the full Statement at our show last year, adding fuel to the process.

 

Alastair

 

But thanks for the 'congrats' Jon, although we might only e deserving of the 'rats' part at this stage.