Statement has landed

Posted by: Graham Clarke on 09 May 2015

So after three long months of waiting, my Statement preamp finally arrived yesterday.  I managed to do pretty well in being patient until we got down to around the last ten days…  This was the starting point:

 

 

Since my Statement home demo via UHES in January I’ve changed my two main interconnects to Super Lumina ones and have swapped out NAC A5 for Super Lumina, at a somewhat excessive cost, but with brilliant results. 

 

 

To answer a previous question asked on the Forum regarding how these speaker cables are tuned, it is down to the resistor used.  The resistor is soldered across the positive and negative cables and then surrounded in the metal box to protect it.  This provides the correct inductance that the power amps require.  The tuning is the value of the resistor and the type of resistor used (e.g. RS Components, Farnell etc).  Required values were determined for specific lengths via listening and then other lengths were calculated via a computer program.

 

Anyway, onto the day.  The plan was to check the torque settings on the S-600 speakers’ drive unit screws, break down, clean, tighten and reconfigure the Fraim racks, install the six Super Lumina DIN-XLR cables and oh, just add the Statement S-1 pre-amp to the mix, replacing the 552…

 

To complete this task we had four people.  Ian and Norman from UHES of course, plus Jason Gould and Mark Raggett directly from Naim.  It’s always enjoyable spending time with Ian and Norman but also getting to spend around four hours with Jason and Mark was the icing on the cake.

 

 

Ian first checked the speaker torque settings, which turned out to be fine since their last check nearly two years ago.  Given I purchased these as ex-demo speakers from UHES it’s probably no surprise that they had already bedded in and didn’t need further adjustment.

 

I wish I could say the same about the Fraim racks.  These were new a year ago and Ian had told me that I should check the tightness of the spikes after a few months because there is a degree of compression and expansion of the wood from new which will loosen them.  Having assumed that they would just be slightly loose combined with a degree of laziness and a manic work schedule I’m afraid I hadn’t bothered.  Well, when we broke down the power supply Fraim rack and lifted the base off the carpet, one of the spikes remained embedded in the concrete floor, to my embarrassment!  So YES, you really DO need to check these with newly built Fraim racks.

 

During this time break down time, Jason and Mark had man handled the S-1 flight case out of Mark’s car.  At least for the UK, these are delivered direct from the factory to the customer.  “Man handled” is the correct term given the 102Kg shipping weight but this was slightly easier than in January as the case now has detachable wheels.  Direct delivery is done to ensure that the unit turns up in 100% perfect condition both cosmetically and functionally.  This was of course not a problem with mine.

 

While they were busy doing this, I kept myself busy by taking a look at the long awaited DIN-XLR cables.

 

Anyone familiar with Powerlines or Hi-Lines will recognise the packaging.

 

 

 

As you can see, both ends use the Air-PLUG technology that the other Super Lumina cables use via a set of interconnecting metal rings.  The XLR canons are also metal, unlike the original ones.

 

Jumping forward slightly, the only glitch of the day was that when installing these cables into my Snaxo BMR, the far end of the Air-PLUG connectors on the top cable touch the one beneath.  When the system has bedded in I’ll have to see whether this actually makes an audible difference.

 

 

There was another box which was unexpected, this turned out to be the Statement accessory kit, the finish of which was beautiful.

 

 

There were three layers to this box with the top containing the manual and a spirit level.

 

 

The second layer in mine was empty given I had not purchased the Statement power amps.  Apparently I am the first person world wide that Naim have supplied with just the pre-amp, all other purchasers have gone for the complete system.

 

In the bottom layer of the box were a number of tools

 

 

Including some Statement Fraim chips (different from standard ones) and the remote control which is in the bag on the right.  This is constructed of metal and is similar in weight and feel to the NARCOM remote.

 

Given the NARCOM remote is £300, I dread to think how much a replacement one of these would be.  I better not lose it down the back of the sofa.

 

After completing the first Fraim rack, Jason and Mark unpacked the pre-amp.

 

 

Given the size, weight and space constraints this does need to be planned!  With the protective cover removed it finally appeared for the first time.

 

 

Even unpackaged this weighs 60Kg so moving into position isn’t an easy task.  This is what it looks like inside to help explain (no, this isn't mine!)

 

 

That's a lot of components!

 

Happily (for me) I left the task of moving to Mark.

 

 

No pressure there Mark, I’m sure you loved me taking pictures of you while you were doing this!

 

 

We agree not to put it flush up to the racks so that it could be easily cleaned.  Getting the position right, ensuring it was absolutely level and parallel with the left hand rack easily took 30 minutes such was the perfectionist nature of Ian and Mark. 

 

Installing the second Fraim was relatively straightforward after this, poor Ian was left to do this while everyone else chatted and watched on.  Jason commented that normally with home installs they get involved directly but knew that they could leave this to Ian given his expertise.  High praise indeed for UHES.

 

One added bonus of moving to two racks and separating them slightly is that cable dressing is now much better, with no Burndys touching the wall and all but a few cables off the floor.

 

 

Finally, after over four hours of work, everything was set up and listening was about to begin!

 

 

By now it was about 6:30PM and we had a dinner reservation for 7:30 as we were all hungry, so we only had limited listening time.  I wasn’t too worried about this because the pre-amp is brand new and stone cold, the DIN-XLRs are also new and the rest of the system would have cooled down, so my expectations weren’t too high.

 

From the first track there was a slight degree of harshness around the sound.  This was consistent with the from cold demo in January.  High frequencies were also a little tight and I’d say that the pre-amp and system in generally was probably only at around 50% of its full potential.  Despite that, some of the greatness from the January demo was already apparent: the super low noise floor (if it was any lower it would be sucking noise out of the room) along with the incredible detail and separation of every instrument being played.

 

Unfortunately Saturday obligations mean I won’t get to listen further until later in the afternoon, but both main sources have been left active playing into the system and with further warm up I’m expecting a big jump.  So you’ll have to wait a while longer for the clichés and superlatives.

 

More to follow and thanks for reading if you got this far.

 

 

Posted on: 26 June 2015 by MDS

Good to hear your news, DB, and congratulations.  Like others, I'll look forward to your updates on tweaks and adjustments as you fine-tune your new acquisition.

 

Oh, and rather after the event but, JN, an excellent write-up of your visit to DB's.  

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by jon h
Originally Posted by Signals UK:

 

But thanks for the 'congrats' Jon, although we might only e deserving of the 'rats' part at this stage.

 

 

It is still a significant commitment to the brand, and that is to be applauded. 

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by tonym

I managed to fit in a short visit to the Darke Bear's lair this morning for an all-too-brief listen to the S1.

 

It's OK...Nothing dramatic, just very, very nice. In fact, it's probably the nicest system I've heard. Yes, that nice.  No element you could really focus on, it just played the music in a totally natural way, everything balanced. You could listen to it forever. Wish I had more time, should have taken over some more CDs.

 

Thanks Gary (I think). I won't be playing my system today, best to try and forget the S1 for a bit.

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by tonym:

 

Thanks Gary (I think). I won't be playing my system today, best to try and forget the S1 for a bit.

I think that just about sums it up Tony.

Even those of us who haven't actually heard the S1 are beginning to wonder what we are missing and whether our existing systems are potentially disappointing.

 

For years and years, I have always listened to CDs first each evening, then moved on to LPs. Once I have played an LP I am unable to contemplate reverting to a CD that evening. I have to leave CDs alone until the following evening when they sound good again !

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by J.N.

It sounds like Tony got the 'Understatement' effect as I did. Very un-Hi-Fi and very musically engaging.

 

Utterly delightful. Like Tony; I'm trying to forget about it.

 

John.

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by J.N.
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:
 

 

For years and years, I have always listened to CDs first each evening, then moved on to LPs. Once I have played an LP I am unable to contemplate reverting to a CD that evening. I have to leave CDs alone until the following evening when they sound good again !

Same here Don. It seems to be a common phenomenon among vinyl-heads of my acquaintance.

 

Good listening.

 

John.

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by bluedog
Originally Posted by Wat:
Originally Posted by Tabby cat:

...  but spend the same on a car and no one bats an eyelid.

 

Cars are boring, music is not - can't understand why anybody wastes money on expensive cars 

You're not driving the right car. mate

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by Rob T

Just wanted to add my congratulations also DB, it is a great achievement when you are able to spend money on something that will give you immense pleasure, hope you have many years of enjoyment from it.

 

All the best

 

 

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by ken c
Originally Posted by J.N.:

It sounds like Tony got the 'Understatement' effect as I did. Very un-Hi-Fi and very musically engaging.

 

Utterly delightful. Like Tony; I'm trying to forget about it.

 

John.

as i recall when i listened to S1 at Graham's house, i was initially uncomfortable that the Ovator speaker signature might put me off, being used to SL2s.

 

But in fact,this issue turned out to be completely and utterly irrelevant. I heard deeply engaging music, nuff said....

 

so i understand what you guys are referring to as 'understatement'... well put!

 

enjoy...

ken

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by J.N.:

It sounds like Tony got the 'Understatement' effect as I did. Very un-Hi-Fi and very musically engaging.

 

Utterly delightful. Like Tony; I'm trying to forget about it.

 

John.

Utterly delightful, like Tony.  Something you're not telling us, John? 

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by ken c:
Originally Posted by J.N.:

It sounds like Tony got the 'Understatement' effect as I did. Very un-Hi-Fi and very musically engaging.

 

Utterly delightful. Like Tony; I'm trying to forget about it.

 

John.

as i recall when i listened to S1 at Graham's house, i was initially uncomfortable that the Ovator speaker signature might put me off, being used to SL2s.

 

But in fact,this issue turned out to be completely and utterly irrelevant. I heard deeply engaging music, nuff said....

 

so i understand what you guys are referring to as 'understatement'... well put!

 

enjoy...

ken

Sounds even better now, having had a stack of SL cables thrown at it...

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by mrclick
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
Originally Posted by J.N.:

It sounds like Tony got the 'Understatement' effect as I did. Very un-Hi-Fi and very musically engaging.

 

Utterly delightful. Like Tony; I'm trying to forget about it.

 

John.

Utterly delightful, like Tony.  Something you're not telling us, John? 

Good grammar is our saviour here. The judicious use of the full stop makes all the difference.

 

J.N.is from Norfolk of course and good grammar is even more essential there. I am sure he would be delighted to explain the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse, from helping your uncle jack off a horse.

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by Steve J

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by mrclick

Important distinction for life in Devon as well Steve!

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by mrclick:
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
Originally Posted by J.N.:

It sounds like Tony got the 'Understatement' effect as I did. Very un-Hi-Fi and very musically engaging.

 

Utterly delightful. Like Tony; I'm trying to forget about it.

 

John.

Utterly delightful, like Tony.  Something you're not telling us, John? 

Good grammar is our saviour here. The judicious use of the full stop makes all the difference.

 

J.N.is from Norfolk of course and good grammar is even more essential there. I am sure he would be delighted to explain the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse, from helping your uncle jack off a horse.

Yes,

 

Eats, shoots and leaves. or

Eats shoots and leaves.

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by Steve J

You know the old saying Mr Click. "Devon born, Devon bred, strong in arm, thick in head." Said in a Devonshire accent. 

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by Darke Bear

Another forum member friend Mike and his wife Pam visited today after Tony. We just finished an 8 hour music session with a very wide variety of music of all kinds being played spanning the time before I existed up until the present. The main thing is - there is no fatigue at all! I've never seen such a big smile on Pam's face as the session progressed late into the evening. Everything was so easy to listen too with ease.

 

We also discovered another unexpected large improvement to performance that seemed to give half as much again in performance. I was quite shocked that the removal of the turned-off 552 power supply from the fraim rack to the left of the S1, leaving only the two 555 supplies for the CD555, made any real difference at all - but it was unexpectedly large. No idea what caused it, but the sound became faster, more open and fluid with loads more easy detail. One of those things not probably believed unless you actually heard it.

 

So all going very well with the new heart of my system - and I'm very pleased that more is there than I thought.

 

DB.

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by Michael

Yes indeed thank you so much for inviting us. As you said 8 hours of listening and discussion with no fatigue whatsoever we could have carried on into the night!.

 

Your extremely revealing system was absolutely crying out for that S1 Pre Amp and the SL cabling and as you said removing the 552 power supply made a very worthwhile difference to the sound. I am sure there is more to come once you have dressed all your speaker cables, experimented with Fraim and levels for your other pieces of equipment... plus of course more running in time.

 

Thanks again from Pam and me.

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by Dustysox

Congratulations DB. Really pleased for you, i was so surprised!!!!

 

Does Statement re write the source first rule?

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by Darke Bear
Originally Posted by Dustysox:

Does Statement re write the source first rule?

I never liked it being called a 'rule', but more a guide to where to place emphasis when constructing a system.

 

It could be said my system with three NAP500 (and two 555PS on 555) was not balanced at the Pre point, compared to the Power Amps. In any case it sounds a lot happier now - and the NAP500s are doing a lot more good.

 

I think system balance is best approach, with parallel focus on getting best source.

 

I have heard source first taken too far, personally, but all must get their own ideas on that.

 

Also the best systems over the years I have experienced had a Pre that was silly more expensive than the other system components. Multiple coincidences or a point of needed strength for a system?

 

DB.

 

Posted on: 27 June 2015 by AMA
Originally Posted by Darke Bear:
 

Also the best systems over the years I have experienced had a Pre that was silly more expensive than the other system components. Multiple coincidences or a point of needed strength for a system?

 

Don't worry DB, it will not take long before Naim re-writes the musical and cost standards for a Statement Source and bring it back to the same old "source-first" paradigm 

 

Start saving !!!

Posted on: 28 June 2015 by Darke Bear

Well speaking of 'Source First' I have been putting some care and attention into my source positioning; I use CD 555 with twin 555 DR supplies.

 

Since the S1 Pre does not require Fraim unlike the 552, it means that I could finally try something I'd wanted to - giving the source more free-space on its own table. Since yesterday's removal of the previous 552PS from atop the twin 555 supplies was unexpectedly positive in terms of added flow and colour to the music, it was now time to remove the 552 Pre from beneath the 555.

 

I had used two medium levels for the fraim stack with the 555/552 with an empty base level with glass fitted. Although I have never liked the sound introduced by empty fraim shelves, I always found the exception was for the base shelf - probably because it is more stable at the bottom. I also found that it needed the glass sitting on it as designed, or it would introduce 'warm' woody colouration.

 

With the 555 now atop two medium fraim shelfs in its own stack the sound has remarkably opened-out and become far more dynamic and fast with better rendition of decay on all struck notes. I had to place a small weight (in fact the hardback 'welcome to Statement' booklet) on the middle empty shelf below the 555 to remove the expected ring that initially appeared in the sound - the shelves like to have something sitting on them.

 

I then tried replacing the medium lower shelf with a standard level and although it still sounded very good, something was lot in terms of clarity and openness. I have to have more height than the Medium shelf alone, as otherwise the 555 Burndies will touch the floor - which is really very bad.

 

After some more listening, I decided to replace the Medium shelf and it is back to:

 555 Head on Medium -

 Empty Meduim below (with glass and small damping weight) -

 Empty base level with glass (no damping)

 

This opened-out everything again. I'd say it made it sound 'more like Vinyl' in terms of clarity, speed and no over-weighty sound.

 

I played Madonna's 'Live to Tell' track of Immaculate Collection, which is rather well recorded - amazing improvements to presentation. I'd never heard the big right-hand drum feathering after the big hits like this before. There was more colour and fullness to the voice and sense of intent in the music than I'd heard before.

 

Yes - source first. But not just bung the source in anywhere, but give it some care and attention and you will be very pleasantly surprised at what it can offer-up that you may otherwise never hear.

 

...and I'm continuing to love the Statement Pre.

 

DB.

Posted on: 28 June 2015 by ken c

interesting DB where do you think the S1 is in its run-in cycle? 50% 90% -- of course i know numbers dont mean much -- i am just trying to find out whether you think its almost 'there' or not, in terms of run-in. reason i ask is how much do you think run-in will change some of the layout and configuration changes you are making now? It doesnt really matter anyhow as you are enjoying it all... just wondered...

 

enjoy...

ken

Posted on: 28 June 2015 by Darke Bear

Ken,

 

If it remains just like this and does not change at all then I'm well pleased!

From what others with greater experience have said there may be a big dip to come then ending-up even better - I will see.

 

Presently adapting the rest of my system to the new configuration needed by the S1 Pre. I had the dual 552 and S1 Pre set-up for the home audition, but now the 552 is making its way out, I can reconfigure the fraim on the source-side to optimise for what I have.

 

The right hand two fraim stacks are working well with snaxo and power amps, so just source side to get settled.

 

I'm having a lot of musical fun with the new performance right now. I may try to simplify the 555 head to work on only a single fraim table, but I have the usual Naim leads and cables puzzle to solve - keeping everything off floor and reaching all it needs to.

 

DB.

Posted on: 29 June 2015 by Darke Bear

Not a great pic, but shows the present lower level source.

 

I've still got to clean all the rear cables up, but it sounds nice and clean on the single level, although not as exciting and open as when I had it on two medium fraim levels.

 

DB.