Statement has landed

Posted by: Graham Clarke on 09 May 2015

So after three long months of waiting, my Statement preamp finally arrived yesterday.  I managed to do pretty well in being patient until we got down to around the last ten days…  This was the starting point:

 

 

Since my Statement home demo via UHES in January I’ve changed my two main interconnects to Super Lumina ones and have swapped out NAC A5 for Super Lumina, at a somewhat excessive cost, but with brilliant results. 

 

 

To answer a previous question asked on the Forum regarding how these speaker cables are tuned, it is down to the resistor used.  The resistor is soldered across the positive and negative cables and then surrounded in the metal box to protect it.  This provides the correct inductance that the power amps require.  The tuning is the value of the resistor and the type of resistor used (e.g. RS Components, Farnell etc).  Required values were determined for specific lengths via listening and then other lengths were calculated via a computer program.

 

Anyway, onto the day.  The plan was to check the torque settings on the S-600 speakers’ drive unit screws, break down, clean, tighten and reconfigure the Fraim racks, install the six Super Lumina DIN-XLR cables and oh, just add the Statement S-1 pre-amp to the mix, replacing the 552…

 

To complete this task we had four people.  Ian and Norman from UHES of course, plus Jason Gould and Mark Raggett directly from Naim.  It’s always enjoyable spending time with Ian and Norman but also getting to spend around four hours with Jason and Mark was the icing on the cake.

 

 

Ian first checked the speaker torque settings, which turned out to be fine since their last check nearly two years ago.  Given I purchased these as ex-demo speakers from UHES it’s probably no surprise that they had already bedded in and didn’t need further adjustment.

 

I wish I could say the same about the Fraim racks.  These were new a year ago and Ian had told me that I should check the tightness of the spikes after a few months because there is a degree of compression and expansion of the wood from new which will loosen them.  Having assumed that they would just be slightly loose combined with a degree of laziness and a manic work schedule I’m afraid I hadn’t bothered.  Well, when we broke down the power supply Fraim rack and lifted the base off the carpet, one of the spikes remained embedded in the concrete floor, to my embarrassment!  So YES, you really DO need to check these with newly built Fraim racks.

 

During this time break down time, Jason and Mark had man handled the S-1 flight case out of Mark’s car.  At least for the UK, these are delivered direct from the factory to the customer.  “Man handled” is the correct term given the 102Kg shipping weight but this was slightly easier than in January as the case now has detachable wheels.  Direct delivery is done to ensure that the unit turns up in 100% perfect condition both cosmetically and functionally.  This was of course not a problem with mine.

 

While they were busy doing this, I kept myself busy by taking a look at the long awaited DIN-XLR cables.

 

Anyone familiar with Powerlines or Hi-Lines will recognise the packaging.

 

 

 

As you can see, both ends use the Air-PLUG technology that the other Super Lumina cables use via a set of interconnecting metal rings.  The XLR canons are also metal, unlike the original ones.

 

Jumping forward slightly, the only glitch of the day was that when installing these cables into my Snaxo BMR, the far end of the Air-PLUG connectors on the top cable touch the one beneath.  When the system has bedded in I’ll have to see whether this actually makes an audible difference.

 

 

There was another box which was unexpected, this turned out to be the Statement accessory kit, the finish of which was beautiful.

 

 

There were three layers to this box with the top containing the manual and a spirit level.

 

 

The second layer in mine was empty given I had not purchased the Statement power amps.  Apparently I am the first person world wide that Naim have supplied with just the pre-amp, all other purchasers have gone for the complete system.

 

In the bottom layer of the box were a number of tools

 

 

Including some Statement Fraim chips (different from standard ones) and the remote control which is in the bag on the right.  This is constructed of metal and is similar in weight and feel to the NARCOM remote.

 

Given the NARCOM remote is £300, I dread to think how much a replacement one of these would be.  I better not lose it down the back of the sofa.

 

After completing the first Fraim rack, Jason and Mark unpacked the pre-amp.

 

 

Given the size, weight and space constraints this does need to be planned!  With the protective cover removed it finally appeared for the first time.

 

 

Even unpackaged this weighs 60Kg so moving into position isn’t an easy task.  This is what it looks like inside to help explain (no, this isn't mine!)

 

 

That's a lot of components!

 

Happily (for me) I left the task of moving to Mark.

 

 

No pressure there Mark, I’m sure you loved me taking pictures of you while you were doing this!

 

 

We agree not to put it flush up to the racks so that it could be easily cleaned.  Getting the position right, ensuring it was absolutely level and parallel with the left hand rack easily took 30 minutes such was the perfectionist nature of Ian and Mark. 

 

Installing the second Fraim was relatively straightforward after this, poor Ian was left to do this while everyone else chatted and watched on.  Jason commented that normally with home installs they get involved directly but knew that they could leave this to Ian given his expertise.  High praise indeed for UHES.

 

One added bonus of moving to two racks and separating them slightly is that cable dressing is now much better, with no Burndys touching the wall and all but a few cables off the floor.

 

 

Finally, after over four hours of work, everything was set up and listening was about to begin!

 

 

By now it was about 6:30PM and we had a dinner reservation for 7:30 as we were all hungry, so we only had limited listening time.  I wasn’t too worried about this because the pre-amp is brand new and stone cold, the DIN-XLRs are also new and the rest of the system would have cooled down, so my expectations weren’t too high.

 

From the first track there was a slight degree of harshness around the sound.  This was consistent with the from cold demo in January.  High frequencies were also a little tight and I’d say that the pre-amp and system in generally was probably only at around 50% of its full potential.  Despite that, some of the greatness from the January demo was already apparent: the super low noise floor (if it was any lower it would be sucking noise out of the room) along with the incredible detail and separation of every instrument being played.

 

Unfortunately Saturday obligations mean I won’t get to listen further until later in the afternoon, but both main sources have been left active playing into the system and with further warm up I’m expecting a big jump.  So you’ll have to wait a while longer for the clichés and superlatives.

 

More to follow and thanks for reading if you got this far.

 

 

Posted on: 10 May 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by Darke Bear:

Good to know that the run-in before it leaves the 552 behind is only a day or so.

 

Interesting what you say about the bass performance and noise-floor. The only demo I had was at a show with Focal speakers and they did allow me to recognise something was special in those areas, but I didn't get on with the higher frequency range which was a bit hard for my taste.

 

It was easy to put the bass performance down to the Power Amps, but from what you said it appears that the Pre has a lot to contribute there as well. Obviously it is not the main thing, but I have found that something that does not struggle with low frequencies or overly colour them draws me into the music better.

 

Continue to keep us appraised of the run-in journey - and congratulations of a decision made!

 

DB.

I didn't get on with the "F word" brand speakers either.  When I heard the Stella Utopias powered by Statement at the factory, on one of the tracks I thought they were insufferably bright.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if the speakers had been designed with a slight uplift at both extreme high and low frequencies to mask the difficulty of them being driven by less powerful power amps.  Statement then worsens that by having the requisite power.

 

Posted on: 10 May 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by 911gt3r:

Great continous write up Graham and you can actually become accustomed to going LALALA in a funny sort of warped way!  Enjoy the ride Peter

What makes you think I didn't already do that?

Posted on: 10 May 2015 by DrMark

You know something Graham a thought occurs to me.

 

You are brilliant.  By only getting the pre-amp, you have left yourself an upgrade path for the future and can indulge in "upgradeitis" like the rest of us.  Good thinking!

Posted on: 10 May 2015 by ken c
Originally Posted by King Size:
 

I believe the first full Statement Pre-Amp and Amp set came to NZ.  There are pictures on Naim Audio NZ's Facebook page dated 5 March.  The accompanying copy say Australasia's first Statement, but when Doug Graham was here last year he said that first Statement was allocated to NZ.  Either way they have definitely sold more than one.

King Size, many thanks for interesting bit of info !

when i listened to the NAC S1a few months ago @ Graham's, i concluded to myself that despite th cost, Naim would sell quite a lot of 'Statement' systems...

 

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 10 May 2015 by ken c
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:

I wasn't suggesting they have only sold one or that I was the first to buy!

.... 

I am the first to buy just the pre amp.  I'm sure I won't be the only one though.
 

... and i wasnt suggesting you were suggesting this. :-)  i had "assumed"...

 

i agree with you that you that many more NAC S1's will have been sold by this time next year, at which pointg retailers will probably start selling their x-dem stock. ha ha ha, dream on ken...

 

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 10 May 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by DrMark:

You know something Graham a thought occurs to me.

 

You are brilliant.  By only getting the pre-amp, you have left yourself an upgrade path for the future and can indulge in "upgradeitis" like the rest of us.  Good thinking!

Hah, I wish it was brilliance but it's two simple things: the desire to remain active and lack of funds for the power amps given I'd need four!

 

Posted on: 10 May 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by ken c:
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:

I wasn't suggesting they have only sold one or that I was the first to buy!

.... 

I am the first to buy just the pre amp.  I'm sure I won't be the only one though.
 

... and i wasnt suggesting you were suggesting this. :-)  i had "assumed"...

 

i agree with you that you that many more NAC S1's will have been sold by this time next year, at which pointg retailers will probably start selling their x-dem stock. ha ha ha, dream on ken...

 

enjoy

ken

I think they have to keep them for at least two years.

 

By which time the current retail price will be even more stratospheric.  Their ex-dem price will then be based on the current retail price which means if you're lucky you'd pick them up for the pre-April 2015 price rise...

Posted on: 10 May 2015 by ken c
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
Originally Posted by ken c:
I think they have to keep them for at least two years.

 

By which time the current retail price will be even more stratospheric.  Their ex-dem price will then be based on the current retail price which means if you're lucky you'd pick them up for the pre-April 2015 price rise...

Dont worry Graham, i wasn't serious...  The hint was 'dream on'. 

Statement is simply out of my league. Well, i cant even afford the SL XLR and speaker cables... there would be no point going for any Statement without them... in my view...

 

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 10 May 2015 by rackkit
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
Originally Posted by DrMark:

You know something Graham a thought occurs to me.

 

You are brilliant.  By only getting the pre-amp, you have left yourself an upgrade path for the future and can indulge in "upgradeitis" like the rest of us.  Good thinking!

Hah, I wish it was brilliance but it's two simple things: the desire to remain active and lack of funds for the power amps given I'd need four!

 

Wouldn't a passive Statement set have the beating of your current active amps?

 

Nice write up by the way, i honestly wasn't expecting anyone on the forum to purchase Statement kit. Congrats! 

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by ken c:
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
Originally Posted by ken c:
I think they have to keep them for at least two years.

 

By which time the current retail price will be even more stratospheric.  Their ex-dem price will then be based on the current retail price which means if you're lucky you'd pick them up for the pre-April 2015 price rise...

Dont worry Graham, i wasn't serious...  The hint was 'dream on'. 

Statement is simply out of my league. Well, i cant even afford the SL XLR and speaker cables... there would be no point going for any Statement without them... in my view...

 

enjoy

ken

I was thinking maybe you were planning a Hatton Garden style bank heist to finance the purchase

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by rackkit:
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
Originally Posted by DrMark:

You know something Graham a thought occurs to me.

 

You are brilliant.  By only getting the pre-amp, you have left yourself an upgrade path for the future and can indulge in "upgradeitis" like the rest of us.  Good thinking!

Hah, I wish it was brilliance but it's two simple things: the desire to remain active and lack of funds for the power amps given I'd need four!

 

Wouldn't a passive Statement set have the beating of your current active amps?

 

Nice write up by the way, i honestly wasn't expecting anyone on the forum to purchase Statement kit. Congrats! 

Yes, I would expect passive Statement power amps to beat my three 300s, however you're reintroducing the passive crossover in doing so and thus lose something too, particularly around the speed of music delivery.

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by Graham Clarke

So, what did day three (Sunday) show me?

 

Well, not only does the soundstage have breadth, it also has an enormous amount of depth.  In some pieces of music it feels like some instruments are close by you while others are 20-30ft further back which lends itself to a feeling of spaciousness.

 

Also, there's a fullness to the music that wasn't there with the 552.  I find it hard to explain this, but the 552 now seems overly lean in its presentation style, it's like it's the diet coke to the Statement's full fat coke.  This makes everything feel more musical and enjoyable.

 

Back to detail (again).  Listening to The Clash's Rock the Casbah, there's some hand drum action early on in the track that I'd never heard via the 552.  There's a lot going on at that point in the track but Statement just lets you easily pick your way through it.

 

So it seems to be continuing to improve.

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by Tabby cat

Thats Great news Graham.My God what will it be like after a month of warm up.

 

I can see some late nights for you.Especially if its all ready sounding wicked.

 

I don't know if you saw the recent Statement thread on PFM.There was a link to the most expensive amps and £150 000 for Statement was low down the price list.Way up there was a Jadis pre and power almost £700 000  !!

 

Thanks for the write up and pics

 

Cheers Ian

 

 

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by ken c
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
I was thinking maybe you were planning a Hatton Garden style bank heist to finance the purchase

shhhhh... 

 

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by Penarth Blues
Originally Posted by Tabby cat:

Thats Great news Graham.My God what will it be like after a month of warm up.

 

I can see some late nights for you.Especially if its all ready sounding wicked.

 

I don't know if you saw the recent Statement thread on PFM.There was a link to the most expensive amps and £150 000 for Statement was low down the price list.Way up there was a Jadis pre and power almost £700 000  !!

 

Thanks for the write up and pics

 

Cheers Ian

 

 

Just read some of the thread and the conclusion seems to be that the Statement is all smoke and mirrors, along with the new Lumina cables, while Graham is apparently insane

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by rackkit
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
Originally Posted by rackkit:
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
Originally Posted by DrMark:

You know something Graham a thought occurs to me.

 

You are brilliant.  By only getting the pre-amp, you have left yourself an upgrade path for the future and can indulge in "upgradeitis" like the rest of us.  Good thinking!

Hah, I wish it was brilliance but it's two simple things: the desire to remain active and lack of funds for the power amps given I'd need four!

 

Wouldn't a passive Statement set have the beating of your current active amps?

 

Nice write up by the way, i honestly wasn't expecting anyone on the forum to purchase Statement kit. Congrats! 

Yes, I would expect passive Statement power amps to beat my three 300s, however you're reintroducing the passive crossover in doing so and thus lose something too, particularly around the speed of music delivery.

I think the only thing you'd lose is a load of Fraim and Black boxes! How levels does your active set up actually use? 

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by Penarth Blues:
Originally Posted by Tabby cat:

Thats Great news Graham.My God what will it be like after a month of warm up.

 

I can see some late nights for you.Especially if its all ready sounding wicked.

 

I don't know if you saw the recent Statement thread on PFM.There was a link to the most expensive amps and £150 000 for Statement was low down the price list.Way up there was a Jadis pre and power almost £700 000  !!

 

Thanks for the write up and pics

 

Cheers Ian

 

 

Just read some of the thread and the conclusion seems to be that the Statement is all smoke and mirrors, along with the new Lumina cables, while Graham is apparently insane

Yeah, just read the thread.  Kind of weird reading about oneself in that way.  Clearly I am BONKERS for pairing the preamp up with S-600s.  I mean, they're OVATORS for heaven sake!  Err...

 

I was tempted to join up and respond but then thought better of it.  Given most have written it off without ever hearing it, a reasoned argument would just fall on deaf ears (literally and figuratively!)

 

However, they are entitled to their opinion, how ever much others may feel it is misguided.

 

Graham

PS I probably am insane.

 

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by rackkit:
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
Originally Posted by rackkit:
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
Originally Posted by DrMark:

You know something Graham a thought occurs to me.

 

You are brilliant.  By only getting the pre-amp, you have left yourself an upgrade path for the future and can indulge in "upgradeitis" like the rest of us.  Good thinking!

Hah, I wish it was brilliance but it's two simple things: the desire to remain active and lack of funds for the power amps given I'd need four!

 

Wouldn't a passive Statement set have the beating of your current active amps?

 

Nice write up by the way, i honestly wasn't expecting anyone on the forum to purchase Statement kit. Congrats! 

Yes, I would expect passive Statement power amps to beat my three 300s, however you're reintroducing the passive crossover in doing so and thus lose something too, particularly around the speed of music delivery.

I think the only thing you'd lose is a load of Fraim and Black boxes! How levels does your active set up actually use? 

Well, 4 for the second and third NAP 300 and 2 for the SNAXO and Supercap.  But I like it that way!

 

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by tonym
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
 

 

I was tempted to join up and respond but then thought better of it.  Given most have written it off without ever hearing it, a reasoned argument would just fall on deaf ears (literally and figuratively!)

 

However, they are entitled to their opinion, how ever much others may feel it is misguided.

 

Graham

PS I probably am insane.

 

You probably read my suggestion that, perhaps, the more rabid anti-Naim faction might actually listen to the Statement before rubbishing it? There are some very bisted and twitter people on pfm. Wonder exactly what Naim have done to deserve their ire? Too successful perhaps? More likely the old green-eyed god...

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by ken c
Originally Posted by tonym:
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
 

More likely the old green-eyed god...

i suspect you are right on the mark, tony...

 

but come to think of it, this attitude is nothing new anyhow... almost sounds pre-programmed

 

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by tonym:
Originally Posted by Graham Clarke:
 

 

I was tempted to join up and respond but then thought better of it.  Given most have written it off without ever hearing it, a reasoned argument would just fall on deaf ears (literally and figuratively!)

 

However, they are entitled to their opinion, how ever much others may feel it is misguided.

 

Graham

PS I probably am insane.

 

You probably read my suggestion that, perhaps, the more rabid anti-Naim faction might actually listen to the Statement before rubbishing it? There are some very bisted and twitter people on pfm. Wonder exactly what Naim have done to deserve their ire? Too successful perhaps? More likely the old green-eyed god...

Yes Tony, I did see your comments, you were at least one of the voices of reason.

 

Of course on line it's easy to make a judgement without having to back it up, or even understand what you are talking about.

 

Bonkers Graham

PS: I haven't forgotten that I owe you a demo once its settled in.

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by Chris Dolan
Originally Posted by Tabby cat:

I don't know if you saw the recent Statement thread on PFM.

It took me a while to locate it - but while browsing I did learn that a piece of wet string is better than NACA5 

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by Chris Dolan:
Originally Posted by Tabby cat:

I don't know if you saw the recent Statement thread on PFM.

It took me a while to locate it - but while browsing I did learn that a piece of wet string is better than NACA5 

Who'd have guessed?

 

Presumably super wet string is better than Super Lumina too.

 

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by PTPlayers
Originally Posted by Chris Dolan:
Originally Posted by Tabby cat:

I don't know if you saw the recent Statement thread on PFM.

It took me a while to locate it - but while browsing I did learn that a piece of wet string is better than NACA5 

Hi What site is PFM ?

 

Thank you 

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by Penarth Blues
Originally Posted by PTPlayers:
Originally Posted by Chris Dolan:
Originally Posted by Tabby cat:

I don't know if you saw the recent Statement thread on PFM.

It took me a while to locate it - but while browsing I did learn that a piece of wet string is better than NACA5 

Hi What site is PFM ?

 

Thank you 

A search for PFM Audio will reveal it. It has aquatic creatures in its title