Tellurium Q Black in da house

Posted by: hungryhalibut on 23 June 2015

Postie arrived this morning with a cardboard box containing 2 4m lengths of Tellurium Q Black speaker cable, bought from James of this fine Forum. Even with the PMC twenty.23's nasty biwire links reinstalled they are sounding very good compared to the A5. They are not at all dull, like the Chord Odyssey I tried before, and seem to provide the drive and engagement of A5 while wiping away a layer of mush and providing greater clarity and insight. They are smaller than the A5 and much floppier, which makes them easier to handle, which is a welcome improvement. I've ordered some Q Black biwire links so that I can make a proper assessment, but initial impressions are very positive. 

Posted on: 02 July 2015 by MikeT.
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:

Mike, I'm pleased that they work so well for you. I would avoid the Nordost bananas, as the Naim connectors really are the best at the amp end. My advice is just to stick with the TQ and move on. 

Curious as to you advice to avoid Nordost Z bananas. I doubt just installing Z type bananas on both ends of NACA5 is going to change the outcome but thought it would be interesting. 

 

My TQB has a similar "Nordost Z type" connector on both ends.  Are your TQB connected with the Naim speaker connector? 

 

Posted on: 02 July 2015 by hungryhalibut

They have the standard factory fit plugs - gold things with a wavy line. Maybe they are z plugs. My point is that the A5 is designed with the Naim plugs. By all means experiment, but for me, life's too short. If the TQ are conclusively better, just forget the A5 and move on. 

 

As the jumpers run in, the sound just gets better and better.

Posted on: 02 July 2015 by GraemeH
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:

They have the standard factory fit plugs - gold things with a wavy line. Maybe they are z plugs. My point is that the A5 is designed with the Naim plugs. By all means experiment, but for me, life's too short. If the TQ are conclusively better, just forget the A5 and move on. 

 

As the jumpers run in, the sound just gets better and better.

The terminations are 'beryllium copper' as opposed to gold I understand HH.

 

G

Posted on: 02 July 2015 by MikeT.
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:

They have the standard factory fit plugs - gold things with a wavy line. Maybe they are z plugs. My point is that the A5 is designed with the Naim plugs. By all means experiment, but for me, life's too short. If the TQ are conclusively better, just forget the A5 and move on. 

 

As the jumpers run in, the sound just gets better and better.

Life is too short I agree, but my curiosity may get the best of me.  It's a project I can work on while listening to music through the TQBs.   It's a project not high on my priority list. 

That your SQ is getting better and better with the jumper run in is more good news. 

 

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by apye!

This is what i have just recieved...

 

 

They don't look right to me, they look nothing like my existing speaker cable.

On the heatshrink it says they are Ultra black but looking at images on the web I don't think they are them either!

 

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by apye!

Here is a better picture...

 

 

Am I being ripped off here?

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by badlyread

On the TQ website the Ultra Black which yours are labelled are single strips rather than 2 in 1. Did you order Ultra Black or just Black. Could be a packing mistake and you are quids in!! (£200 cw £85)

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by apye!
Originally Posted by badlyread:

On the TQ website the Ultra Black which yours are labelled are single strips rather than 2 in 1. Did you order Ultra Black or just Black. Could be a packing mistake and you are quids in!! (£200 cw £85)

I think you could be right, I ordered just Black, although they are a lot longer than the ones shown on the TQ website.

The other general images I saw showed a wide flat strip in between the two cables On the Ultra. 

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by apye!
Originally Posted by apye!:
Originally Posted by badlyread:

On the TQ website the Ultra Black which yours are labelled are single strips rather than 2 in 1. Did you order Ultra Black or just Black. Could be a packing mistake and you are quids in!! (£200 cw £85)

I think you could be right, I ordered just Black, although they are a lot longer than the ones shown on the TQ website.

The other general images I saw showed a wide flat strip in between the two cables On the Ultra. 

Phoned them & yes they sent the wrong ones so they are going back.

Got a discount on the Blacks for my honesty!!

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by GraemeH
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:
See, see! Glad you're pleased - it's always worrying when people follow one's suggestions and are then disappointed.

The PMC Twenty.23 have been transformed too. The top end is sooo clear, sparkling on cymbal work as never before. Bill Evans 'The Washington Twist' sounding amazingly real in front of me has moved me to type this so surprised am I.

 

G

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by MikeT.
Originally Posted by GraemeH:
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:
See, see! Glad you're pleased - it's always worrying when people follow one's suggestions and are then disappointed.

The PMC Twenty.23 have been transformed too. The top end is sooo clear, sparkling on cymbal work as never before. Bill Evans 'The Washington Twist' sounding amazingly real in front of me has moved me to type this so surprised am I.

 

G

The top end is amazingly detailed but not overblown at all. I've have never been happier with any cable purchase.  I kept saying to myself at 11pm last night....just one more song and then to bed. That went on for an album and a half.   Amazingly good match with my 5si. 

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by hungryhalibut
Happy bunnies all round then! The TQB gang grows daily.
Posted on: 03 July 2015 by Southweststokie
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:
Happy bunnies all round then! The TQB gang grows daily.

TQB gang has been here long before the Naim 'sticks of rock' naysayers finally saw the light (or to be more precise stopped burying their heads and ears in the sand and listened to something none Naim without panning it unjustifiably.  

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by fatcat
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:
Happy bunnies all round then! The TQB gang grows daily.

Are any of these happy bunnies using these cables with proper Naim amps. (Chrome Bumper or Olive)

 

If so, is the minimum cable length requirement (3m) the same as NACA5.

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by MDS
Originally Posted by Southweststokie:
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:
Happy bunnies all round then! The TQB gang grows daily.

TQB gang has been here long before the Naim 'sticks of rock' naysayers finally saw the light (or to be more precise stopped burying their heads and ears in the sand and listened to something none Naim without panning it unjustifiably.  

Yep. Good point Southweststokie.  The irony of this conversion is that I only recently moved away from my beloved TQ to Naim cables (albeit SL) 

 

Mike

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by GraemeH
Originally Posted by Southweststokie:
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:
Happy bunnies all round then! The TQB gang grows daily.

TQB gang has been here long before the Naim 'sticks of rock' naysayers finally saw the light (or to be more precise stopped burying their heads and ears in the sand and listened to something none Naim without panning it unjustifiably.  

...or to be even more precise some of us NACA5 users were simply content and uncurious, no panning involved, just bovine acceptance of received naim wisdom...until curiousness got the better of us.

 

G

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by IanG

Just to change direction a little. There is much love here for the TQ Black speaker cable which I also think is wonderful. Has anyone tried and would care to comment on the TQ Black interconnects ?

 

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has compared with the standard Naim interconnect and Hi-Line.

Posted on: 04 July 2015 by pete T15
Originally Posted by IanG:

Just to change direction a little. There is much love here for the TQ Black speaker cable which I also think is wonderful. Has anyone tried and would care to comment on the TQ Black interconnects ?

 

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has compared with the standard Naim interconnect and Hi-Line.

Hi Ian,

 

I have a TQB DIN interconnect which I used between ND5XS and SN2 before I added the Hugo . I bought it after great results with the speaker cable . I can't remember my exact findings but it was substantially better than the lavender cable and I never unplugged it again to compare . I bought a  TQB RCA cable immediately along with my Hugo and have kept the DIN just in case . I can't compare it to a Hiline unfortunately but I would definitely recommend the TQ interconnect. 

 

Peter. 

Posted on: 04 July 2015 by Naimiac

I find in the whole of this thread (not its original formulation and purpose) some hypocrisy. Reading it through, it appears that a large number of Naim users have patiently, stoically borne the NAC A5 for years while secretly longing for an alternative, unable to express their feelings here because of a Diktat by The Faktory.

Now, at last, Sir TelluriumQ, the Knight, has come to their rescue, and everybody has finally the nerve to come out.

 

This is, frankly, bull**it. The TelluriumQ has been discussed here for years, evoking nothing much more than tolerance, and the NAC A5 has been promoted as the best possible solution here for years by some who now talk about it like if has been an unavoidable burden! I have never, in years, seen so many posts against the NAC A5 and in favor of the TelluriumQ as since the SL has been released. That is the motivating factor: and not the TQ's inherent qualities or the NACA's inherent flaws.

 

Such sudden enthusiasms - especially when their mechanisms are so obvious - are a little annoying; but I realize that my personal annoyance is nothing. I'd only wish that my fellow forum members were, at least once in a while, different from teenagers who follow their pelvic zone's guidance elaborating all sort of fake and specious concepts to justify that they're, substantially, still doing what the factory allows them to do.

 

With all due respect to those in bona fide - if any.

N

Posted on: 04 July 2015 by hungryhalibut
All I did was say that I had bought some out of interest, and much to my surprise I preferred it to A5. I'm not sure that's sufficient to unleash a diatribe.
Posted on: 04 July 2015 by Mike-B

I wondered about that reaction. 

I use Chord for speakers & my own made Mogami for IC's,  at the time I posted about them a few years ago it attracted a few huffy responses.  I had the same with a dealers snotty know it all trying to tell me I might as well not have a Naim system without a HiLine,  grand dad sucking eggs came to mind. 

 

........  and as a footnote,  I got the domestic goddess's approval for TQ Black a few days ago,  provided its white 

Posted on: 04 July 2015 by Rob T

I make no apologies for posting the fact imho that these cables are far superior to nac A5, I have also used Chord Odyssey in the past. I had placed an order with my dealer for a pair of SL speaker cables I have since cancelled that order as this cable is not only a fraction of it`s price but far from a fraction of it`s performance, my personal view of what Tellurium Q Black offers my system is its a big improvement over nac A5  I count myself lucky I managed to listen to the TQB when I did as it has saved me a substantial sum of cash which I am now able to put to better use upgrading my amp.

 

I find it slightly bemusing to be compared to "a teenager who follow their pelvic zone's guidance" I have a brain and a pair of ears and eyes which I find are more than adequate and allow me to make any purchasing decisions without the need to be guided by any other part of my anatomy.

 

 

 

Posted on: 04 July 2015 by Southweststokie
Originally Posted by Mike-B

 

........  and as a footnote,  I got the domestic goddess's approval for TQ Black a few days ago,  provided its white 

 

Hi Mike,

 

Just tell her that black is the new white  

 

Ken

Posted on: 05 July 2015 by Chris Dolan
Originally Posted by Naimiac:

Reading it through, it appears that a large number of Naim users have patiently, stoically borne the NAC A5 for years while secretly longing for an alternative, unable to express their feelings here because of a Diktat by The Faktory.

Perhaps we will learn shortly that DR power amps only really work with Super Lumina cabling - as they were sort of developed together 

Posted on: 05 July 2015 by solwisesteve

All this talk of TQ Black has got me onto the idea of popping round to my local dealer and borrowing a set. tbh he always hinted that I should have gone for TQ cable rather than NAC.