Tellurium Q Black in da house

Hi all - fascinating thread, and thanks for posting your findings HH. I was wondering if anyone using the older Naim boxes would benefit from a contemporary cable upgrade like the TQBlack? I'm using a Chrome Bumper Nait2 with NAC4 at the moment wondered if it would enhance or fight the CB old timer? 

Maybe you could a swap! I sold my 3.6m A5 cables on a well known auction site for the princely sum of £52.

As to whether TQ would work well on a Nait 2 I don't know, but if I had one I think I'd stick with A5. 

£52!!!

Wow I paid three times that on 'the cove' and that was after watching prices for 6-8 weeks.

I have been running 2x 3M TQB on my SN2 since about mid May. I bought it after reading a few threads (maybe an old one here as well as other forums) comparing it to NACA5. I then contacted a dealer who sells both NAIM and TQ here in the USA and he said go with TQ, hands down. And since TQ is cheaper, it was an easier decision. The dealer also gave me $100 off the price, so I paid $400 for 2x 3M TQB.

Happy camper!

$400 USD for TQB (what I paid) vs. $650 for NACA5 if I recall. 2x 3M.

$400 USD = 260 GBP or 87 GBP per meter. Closer to 130 GBP per meter for the NACA5.

As I am currently considering new speaker cable, I would be most grateful if you could stop talking up TQ black, it's quite dear enough as it is and I would prefer to have as little competition as possible.  I blame you for starting this HH! 

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£130 per metre? That's ridiculous. 

Sorry to have to do this, dayjay, but not only does TQ black work very well with Naim amps, it also works very well into Focal speakers.  

Mike

Here here , you know it makes sense . TQ Black speaker cable  was a watershed moment for me in terms of "high end" cables , I was very dismissive of the cable effect before trying TQB but i made an immediate decision to purchase . I've no doubt SL is better and may save that for another day but TQB works great with SN2 and H... 

Peter .

Oh dear.  I'm having move around and need a bit more length and its either the TQ or a step up in Chord which would be even more expensive.  It has a lot to answer for this forum 

Any of you 'Tell Q Black' owners using it with a NON Naim amp? I'm a Roksan Caspian M2 owner currently using Chord Odyssey 4 and considering a swap but wondering if the heard 'gains' are NAIM based? If that makes sense.....

Mr THX posted:

"Any of you 'Tell Q Black' owners using it with a NON Naim amp? I'm a Roksan Caspian M2 owner currently using Chord Odyssey 4 and considering a swap but wondering if the heard 'gains' are NAIM based? If that makes sense."

Intuitively, I think it highly unlikely that the 'benefits' of a particular cable would be particularly NAIM biased. However, remember that all systems have different sound signatures, and that the impact of any new speaker cable (or other analogue interconnect) will be different from system to system.

For what it is worth, I run TQ Ultra Black speaker cables between my Lindemann 858 power amp and my Magneplanar 3.6R speakers (as well as TQ Ultra black interconnects between Streamer and pre-amp, and pre and power amps). The SQ benefits that this brought to my system were very substantial indeed. I also had the opportunity to test TQ Black cables in my system. They were also very good and a substantial improvement on my previous cables- just not as good as the Ultra Blacks.

I would urge you not to buy the cables (certainly not the Ultra Blacks) without first trying them out in your system. I have no doubt they would sound great in your system (I have never tested the Chord Odyssey 4 cables), but at the price (of the Ultra Blacks at least) it wouldn't be worth the risk that they might not be what you are looking for.

Bear in mind that Tellurium Q dealers will generally have access to sample cables which will be available for long term demonstration. I had a full set of 'Blacks' and 'Ultra Blacks' for a fortnight or so to allow me to carry out a full evaluation using my home system. I would suggest that you contact Tellurium Q for the address of your closest dealer.

Good luck. 

Thanks Hmack, and others who replied to the question An interesting proposition in that I'm currently dismantling the system as the room (home studio / office) where the Nait 2 resides is being reorganised and decorated - could be the perfect opportunity to explore new / used cables, either NAC 5 or the TQB?

Plus there is a temptation to explore a Naim DAC as well, especially given the 2nd hand prices at the moment!  I'll ponder the next move

A big thank you to Rob at Adventures in HiFi dealership. And. - Big thank you to Hungryhalibut and all the other fish in the Tellurium aquarium.

Wow; So much more music ( in all the ways we like ) coming through a demonstration pair (of supposedly run in ) eight metre blacks. The poor NAC 5 hasn't a chance to redeem itself now.

Seven metre pair on order now. 

This between serviced Chrome bumper 135s and One Thing audio Quad ESL 57s.

Fitted  with the One Thing Widgets is absolutely essential for the full benefit.

Maybe more to come.

Further observation of the Tellurium Black which will replace my NAC 5.

A good way of bypassing the so called superficial HiFi characteristics when trying something new is to listen to some old mono recordings. Lately have been using these two ( typical ) mono quality recordings.;  But that hardly matters if the people performing them are lovable.

a. Beethoven sonatas for violin and piano with Yehudi and Hephzibah Menuhin.

b. Operatic arias with Mirella Freni.

Well, I find the listening experiance is certainly more stable ( or more of a whole )

thereby making the music much easier to follow. This is a special attraction using these cables.

I have this TQ demo pair suspended off the floor in the same way as I had the Naim cable.

There are very few crazy fine tuning ideas I have not investigated . And from that over the years I reckon my system is now at a good potential. 

The TQ blacks do not appear to subtract any of the qualities of the Naim . In fact less mess.

Rock is wonderfully resolved at least in this system. And I think there is a lot more information.

Voices are somewhat more natural . While there is a hint that the music is both more heartfelt with almost the beginnings of a actual meaning. ( At last )

For some strange reason this improvement is big .

It could be the conjunction of the speaker cables with the One Thing Audio Widgets that is adding that little extra In my system.Who knows.

My sources are a reasonably well developed Cymbiosis LP 12 and a Oppo 105.

And finally as far as I can tell there is nothing wrong or overaged with my NAC 5.

I believe that Hungryhalibut who seems to have started this ordeal is right all along.

Its great when someone takes a lead and finds something new for us poor Super Lumina's.

It's great to hear from another convert. I'm sure Super Lumina is the dog's bollocks, but £300 a metre is too much for me, and many others. The TQB is proving to be a really good cable; miles better than A5 and yet (reasonably) sensibly priced. I suspect my jumpers are now fully run in, and the overall sound is just excellent. 

Suspended off the floor? One of the reasons why I got the Tellurium Q Black is that you can lay it flat under the carpet and forget it... Have I got it wrong?

To be fair there is a question mark whether or not TQ black is better suspended . For my own purposes I wanted it to be suspended the same way as the Naim in this early phase of testing. Therefore obviously cutting down on the variables. Speaking with Roger from Tellurium he did not seem particularly concerned about this area. Some hear difference some don't. .Saying it should vary from system to system and the floor situation itself. He commented if I have got this right that it does something to the earthing / capacitance . One thing he did not say is suspend my cables While also indicating it will do no harm If they are. Obviously then still a domain of personal conjecture?

As for other alternatives for speaker cable ; I'm sure there are many but who has the time and energy.

None of us can ever know what is the best .We just try and build up our research to see if a likely consensus arises.

Very happy.

The longer this thread continues, the worse my itch is getting to try these cables

It's funny how times change. When i bought my TQ Blacks, 5 or so years ago, the response on the forum was a lot different to what it is today. It's good to see a less insular approach and to hear that so many are finding these cables a good alternative to A5