Sonos gets Apple Airplay support

Posted by: jon h on 19 April 2011

Yet another platform gets Apple Airplay support

 

Naim really need to get this into unitiqute et alia ASAP.

Posted on: 19 April 2011 by 0rangutan

But have you read how Sonos have achieved this?  You need to string an Apple Airport Express to each Sonos receiver!

 

I would much rather that Naim take their time and do it properly!

Posted on: 19 April 2011 by Guido Fawkes

Thanks for the heads up Jon 

 

Sound excellent to me - I must pick up an Airport Express from my local Apple store. This will effectively add Airplay to my Naim system and will certainly be good enough for me until Naim releases its own Airplay ready streamer. 

 

All the best, Guy

Posted on: 19 April 2011 by DT79
Originally Posted by 0rangutan:

But have you read how Sonos have achieved this?  You need to string an Apple Airport Express to each Sonos receiver!

 

I would much rather that Naim take their time and do it properly!

You only have to connect the AE to one zoneplayer, then the stream from your iXXX can be shared to all zones, and surely that's better than having to buy a whole new zone-player?!

Posted on: 19 April 2011 by Guido Fawkes

I think it is brilliant from Sonos - they do not make money from the sale of an AE, they are just offering a great service to their users. The alternative is to put a chip from Apple in the device, which would be more expensive; this provides an easy way for a Sonus user to enjoy Airplay and in my case as my Sonus plays through a Naim DAC means I can play tunes through my Naim system from an iPod, iPad or iPhone without the need for a physical connection.  

 

If Naim added similar functionality to one of its streaming devices then ....... 

Posted on: 19 April 2011 by Tog
Well the world just tilted a little closer to the AirPlay platform and this sounds like a quick software fix from Sonos. Expect a hardware fix in the near future but it does suggest that AirPlay is gaining ground. Your move Naim.
Posted on: 19 April 2011 by DavidDever
The topic title is incredibly misleading, much like getting Naim for Bentley performance from a Chevy only inasmuch a Bentley has pulled aside you at a stoplight. It is NOT the same as NATIVE AirPlay hardware support.
Posted on: 19 April 2011 by james n
Line out from AE (awful). Digitised by zone player line in for distribution. Convenient ? Yes. Sound good ? Erm.....
Posted on: 19 April 2011 by sondek71
Originally Posted by jon honeyball:

Yet another platform gets Apple Airplay support

 

Naim really need to get this into unitiqute et alia ASAP.

I would also be on the Airplay side. Why does the rest of the world need to write Control Point Software if there already is a perfect control point such as the Apple Airplay Apps? This piece of software is built by hundreds of Software Engineers and comes for free to millions of users. I guess partnering with Apple rather than concurring them with own Apps would be a smart move. It would be a big plus to the Naim sales and success story and let them focus on their core competencies. It would possibly put them on a totally new level and be a USP for Naim against their competitors. But this is surely a point of discussion in Salisbury...hope so. 

Posted on: 19 April 2011 by murkku

Heh, Naim should announce "AirPlay support" for every preamp ever made.

"Just buy an Airport Express and use it's analog out..." - Oh please, this is too late in April.

 

However, I do agree that proper AirPlay support should be implemented for networked Naim players.

Posted on: 20 April 2011 by Jon Myles

Naim have already said to expect an Airplay announcement by the end of the year.

What it will be, I've no idea.

But it's hardly likely to say it's not going to be supported, is it?

Posted on: 20 April 2011 by murkku

I know, the joke was on Sonos' announcement.

But I think Naim should hurry up with the AirPlay support as people are picking their streamers/transporters right now...

Posted on: 20 April 2011 by Frank Abela

Erm...why can't you use the AE's optical digital output to the Sonos ZonePlayer? That would avoid en/de/coding.

 

Seems like a marketing gimmick to me. Sonos are claiming AirPlay compatibility because they can route a source to all the zones. It could be a tuner and you'd get the same effect but now have Radio 2 in every zone. It's not true AirPlay integration, per se. I suspect you can use the optical output instead of the analogue output; it's just that Apple don't talk about it on their site, which indicates yet more marketing hype...

 

Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.

Posted on: 20 April 2011 by james n

The AE pops out the audio in both flavours. The zone players dont have digital inputs.

 

James

 

Posted on: 20 April 2011 by Steven Shaw

Since all my songs in Itunes are aac of varying bit rates, I'm not that bothered that I can't link them to my unitiqute. I'm more than happy to stream flacs using N Stream.

 

Now i Itunes added support for Flac and Hi Res audio, that would be a different matter.

Posted on: 20 April 2011 by pcstockton

Does AirPlay stream 24-96?  Curious.

Posted on: 20 April 2011 by jon h

Yes, its a hack by Sonos, and not a very nice one at that.

 

However, the title is what Sonos themselves are claiming. And thats my point -- they believe Airplay to be *sufficiently important* to do almost anything to get something working so they can claim its supported. (I suspect apple will disagree, but thats for the lawyers).

 

Thats the wake-up call.

Posted on: 20 April 2011 by james n
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Does AirPlay stream 24-96?  Curious.








Micromega are hoping it will with the airstream units.
Posted on: 21 April 2011 by Frank Abela
Originally Posted by james n:

The AE pops out the audio in both flavours. The zone players dont have digital inputs.

 

James

 


Actually, the ZP90 does...

 

Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.

Posted on: 21 April 2011 by Frank Abela
Originally Posted by jon honeyball:

Yes, its a hack by Sonos, and not a very nice one at that.

 

However, the title is what Sonos themselves are claiming. And thats my point -- they believe Airplay to be *sufficiently important* to do almost anything to get something working so they can claim its supported. (I suspect apple will disagree, but thats for the lawyers).

 

Thats the wake-up call.


Well in that case Naim Audio can already claim to be AirPlay compatible. Simply buy an AE and attach it via its toslink connection.

 

If you read the Sonos blurb carefully what they're really claiming is that you can get AirPlay throughput in all zones and the reason for this is that it's an inherent function of the Sonos system anyway, because ANY input can be streamed to any and all zones.

 

Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.

Posted on: 21 April 2011 by jon h
Originally Posted by Jon Myles:

Naim have already said to expect an Airplay announcement by the end of the year.

What it will be, I've no idea.

But it's hardly likely to say it's not going to be supported, is it?

To be pedantic, its been announced that there will be an announcement. Not that there will be an announcement of support...

Posted on: 21 April 2011 by james n
Originally Posted by Frank Abela:
Originally Posted by james n:

The AE pops out the audio in both flavours. The zone players dont have digital inputs.

 

James

 


Actually, the ZP90 does...

 

Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.

Really ?

 

Posted on: 21 April 2011 by jon h
Originally Posted by Frank Abela:
Hence my purchase of ndac -- fed by appletv2, skyhd box, playstation 3, xbox360kinekt all via fibre.
Well in that case Naim Audio can already claim to be AirPlay compatible. Simply buy an AE and attach it via its toslink connection.
Posted on: 21 April 2011 by jon h
Originally Posted by james n:
Originally Posted by Frank Abela:
Originally Posted by james n:

The AE pops out the audio in both flavours. The zone players dont have digital inputs.

 

James

 


Actually, the ZP90 does...

 

Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.

Really ?

 

surely the label "digital audio out" is a clue? :-)

Posted on: 21 April 2011 by RaceTripper

For the price of an AirPort Express you can get an AppleTV 2. Connect its Toslink out to a Uniti. Ta da...AirPlay support from iTunes or an iOS device. I've already used this on my Qute with my iPad.

 

Or am I missing something in the conversation?

Posted on: 21 April 2011 by DavidDever
Originally Posted by jon honeyball:
Originally Posted by Jon Myles:

Naim have already said to expect an Airplay announcement by the end of the year.

What it will be, I've no idea.

But it's hardly likely to say it's not going to be supported, is it?

To be pedantic, its been announced that there will be an announcement. Not that there will be an announcement of support...

An announcement regarding lack of support would be more at home on other forums.