Naim's graemlin menu and what they mean to you

Posted by: joerand on 12 July 2015

There've been several posts recently regarding appropriate use of the exploding sausage

Then there's this  and this

 

I wonder how others make use of the provided graemlins?

 

I'll start with this  . To me it can mean "irreprehensible outrage", but for the character-space limited Twitterers, simply OMG!

 

This one  can mean "ha-ha", but at times "in your face".

 

Your insights invited.

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by BigH47

  laugh/smile or posted with a happy attitude.

  big laugh

 sarcastic

 angry

 sad

 after daffy duck has posted

 shocked or shocking post

 you made a whoops

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by Mick P

Chaps

 

Using these gizmos is a self admission of illiteracy and if you do feel the need to use them, I suggest you go back to a decent school and not the one that obviously failed to provide you with a basic education.

 

Regards

 

Mick

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by osprey
Originally Posted by Mick P:

Chaps

 

Using these gizmos is a self admission of illiteracy and if you do feel the need to use them, I suggest you go back to a decent school and not the one that obviously failed to provide you with a basic education.

 

Regards

 

Mick


Posted on: 12 July 2015 by dayjay
Originally Posted by Mick P:

Chaps

 

Using these gizmos is a self admission of illiteracy and if you do feel the need to use them, I suggest you go back to a decent school and not the one that obviously failed to provide you with a basic education.

 

Regards

 

Mick

Well that's you ignorant lot told 

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by tonym
Originally Posted by osprey:
Originally Posted by Mick P:

Chaps

 

Using these gizmos is a self admission of illiteracy and if you do feel the need to use them, I suggest you go back to a decent school and not the one that obviously failed to provide you with a basic education.

 

Regards

 

Mick


First-class exploding sausage deployment there Mr Osprey! 

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by BigH47

I'm really surprised there is no "Pompous Arse " smilie, could get a lot of use here. 

Maybe that's what the exploding sausage is really for.

 

So spot on osprey.

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by Mick P

Ok let us put it this way - Do you think it is reasonable for a company such as Naim, that has spent 40 odd years building up a reputation based on world class products to have its forum debased by someone who is either too lazy or too illiterate to write a posting without resorting to an exploding sausage etc.

 

It is not being pompous, it is about showing respect.

 

Mick

 

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by BigH47

It is really about you being a pompous chap. You can't help it it's just how you are.

 

One of those who can't stand to see others having a bit of fun.

 

Users will decide for them selves and use them or not. 

 

I suggest you either ignore them or hide away somewhere else where it's still 1959 or maybe a century earlier.

 

...and not one smilie emoticon. DAMN IT!

 

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by fatcat
Originally Posted by Mick P:

Ok let us put it this way - Do you think it is reasonable for a company such as Naim, that has spent 40 odd years building up a reputation based on world class products to have its forum debased by someone who is either too lazy or too illiterate to write a posting without resorting to an exploding sausage etc.

 

It is not being pompous, it is about showing respect.

 

Mick

 

 
 
Originally Posted by Paul Stephenson:

My simple answer is no might be fine for headphones after all you cant do that with with ndac

 

 

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by Bruce Woodhouse

Used very sparingly I quite like the more obvious ones, generally to highlight that a post that may at first appear critical or rude is actually meant in a light-hearted way. We can all think of posts that when re-read appear clumsy, but gain some value or insight from the addition of an emoticon.

 

Language is in continuous evolution so why not?

 

I hate txt spk though, and never resort to it.

 

Bruce

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by ken c
Originally Posted by Mick P:

Ok let us put it this way - Do you think it is reasonable for a company such as Naim, that has spent 40 odd years building up a reputation based on world class products to have its forum debased by someone who is either too lazy or too illiterate to write a posting without resorting to an exploding sausage etc.

 

It is not being pompous, it is about showing respect.

 

Mick

 

you forgot to insert a smiley in your posting, Mick...

 

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by sheffieldgraham
Originally Posted by Bruce Woodhouse:

Used very sparingly I quite like the more obvious ones, generally to highlight that a post that may at first appear critical or rude is actually meant in a light-hearted way. We can all think of posts that when re-read appear clumsy, but gain some value or insight from the addition of an emoticon.

 

Language is in continuous evolution so why not?

 

I hate txt spk though, and never resort to it.

 

Bruce

+1. The English language is so flexible. In text form it can be ambiguous and often misconstrued. I find the Graemlins help to express the correct sentiment of the message and therefore avoid misunderstanding. No guarantee of success though. 

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by Richard Dane

Posting on here is like having a conversation with others.  When you have a conversation face to face it's not just about understanding the words and the sentences but proper understanding also depends very much about body language, the tone and intonation used.  This is how you gauge the emotional state of a speaker or, for example, whether they are being sarcastic.  When written down, all of this can be missed, and so this where the emoticon provides some assistance.  

 

On the Naim forum we appreciate the value of emoticons to help better express the authors feelings, but we have purposely limited the range of emoticons to just the essentials, as it can otherwise get rather cluttered and confusing.  Oh, and we have also included a joker in the emoticon pack, which could likely express any emotion or feeling you like... 

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by hungryhalibut
I tend toward's Micks point of view on this. The onus should be on the writer to express themselves clearly so that their intentions are not misconstrued. To be rude and then add an exploding sausage is akin to saying 'with respect', which is simply another way of saying 'you are talking bollocks'.

I'd suggest turning them all off for a week and reviewing the impact on the quality of discussion. If people have to try a little harder in order to express themselves, it would make for more considered posts, which can only be a good thing.

I'd ban +1 too, which is just laziness.
Posted on: 12 July 2015 by BigH47

-1

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by Hook

Of course Mick is pompous, but in a very likable sort of way. I would be disappointed if he changed.

 

I think the emoticon horse has left the barn. Their usage is ubiquitous. The problem here on the Naim forum is that because so few are on offer, their definitions have become overloaded. 

 

Also, we could easily eliminate the need for "+1" with a thumbs-up emoticon.  

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by hungryhalibut
There could be a thumbs down as well. We could pretend to be Roman Emperors presiding over a gladiator contest.
Posted on: 12 July 2015 by Richard Dane

..or possibly just say "I agree"?

 

I think there are enough emoticons to assist in expressing a feeling or show the tone in which a post has been written.  

 

I agree with HH, that if members try a bit harder to express themselves without resorting to emoticons, then the result may well be more considered posts.  However, that's in an ideal world, and with many members posting here for whom English is not a first language, or who are posting on a portable device, I think that any extra assistance is useful.  They stay for now, and it's worth remembering that emotions are there if you feel you wish to use them, but their use is not compulsory. I rather like that on this forum there is a certain sense of pride among many that they do not feel the need to use emoticons to adequately express themselves.  Long may that continue.

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by 911gt3r
Originally Posted by BigH47:

  laugh/smile or posted with a happy attitude.

  big laugh

 sarcastic

 angry

 sad

 after daffy duck has posted

 shocked or shocking post

 you made a whoops

 I have always used that one as : Really?, or I am dubious of a statement I just made ( well I said it myself). To give an example ; " I keep my stereo playing with the help of Dental floss" . Then add  to show no malice intended. ATB Peter

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by dayjay
Originally Posted by Mick P:

Ok let us put it this way - Do you think it is reasonable for a company such as Naim, that has spent 40 odd years building up a reputation based on world class products to have its forum debased by someone who is either too lazy or too illiterate to write a posting without resorting to an exploding sausage etc.

 

It is not being pompous, it is about showing respect.

 

Mick

 

Its a hifi company and a forum, not a religeon and a church.  Most regular vistors here post on a range of topics and not all are deadly serious Naim discussions.  Lighten up. 

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by Simon-in-Suffolk

And even religions can have fun too 

Posted on: 12 July 2015 by MDS
Originally Posted by Simon-in-Suffolk:

And even religions can have fun too 

Careful, Simon.  You could be excommunicated, or worse, for suggesting that.  

Posted on: 13 July 2015 by joerand

The Naim forum is quite the multi-national and multi-cultural forum. I sometimes find confusion of terms even between the 'English' speaking Americans and Brits. Simple use of an emoticon can go far define the intent of a post. A picture is worth a thousand words, and nobody really wants to read a thousand word post. 

 

Emoticons can add a bit of color and character to a post in a simple manner, and lend insight into the personality or mood of the poster.

 

Are you a serious dick to be taken at your very word and hope it translates across the forum? ... fine don't use emoticons.

 

Do you enjoy the effective use of sarcasm but at the same time don't wish to offend? .... These can work   .

 

I can post "I think you're off your rocker",  and you might take offense as I've just called you a lunatic. Or I can post "I think you're off your rocker  " and it becomes a statement of agreement. Still, if I want to leave my statement open to either edge of the sword, I can post "I think you're off your rocker  " and let you decide how to respond.

Posted on: 13 July 2015 by Mick P

Wat

 

There seems to be just two choices.

 

1. Write in using a decent level of grammar where everyone understands what you mean. Something the average 12 year old is capable of.

 

or

 

2. Be lazy and write in without any thought of sentence construction with all the pitfalls that entails. Naturally you will have to resort to emoticons and your posting may look like a school boys crayoning book.

 

Your choice.

 

Regards

 

Mick

Posted on: 13 July 2015 by TOBYJUG

Phffffffffft.