HDX-SSD - Meta-data for ripping

Posted by: robgr on 25 July 2015

When I rip a CD on my HDX to my NAS it appears that no meta-data is created. This is fine for the HDX but when for example using MinimServer from a PC this means that all such music is lumped together as Unknown. Is there a way to make the HDX create meta-data of at least album & artist when ripping. I'm likely missing something but haven't been able to reslove the issue.

Posted on: 25 July 2015 by Bart
Originally Posted by robgr:

When I rip a CD on my HDX to my NAS it appears that no meta-data is created. This is fine for the HDX but when for example using MinimServer from a PC this means that all such music is lumped together as Unknown. Is there a way to make the HDX create meta-data of at least album & artist when ripping. I'm likely missing something but haven't been able to reslove the issue.

I think that what you're missing is that when you use the HDX to rip a cd, the default format is .wav and the metadata is created in a separate .xml file for the HDX and Naim apps to use. 

 

Also, the Store that the HDX rips to is not meant to be read by other hardware; it's really for the HDX.  It's locked, meaning you cannot edit the files.

 

If you want a more universally accepted format for your cd rips, set it to rip to .flac and/or convert your Store of .wav rips to .flac.  This will indeed create metadata that something like Minimserver can use.

Posted on: 25 July 2015 by robgr

Thanks Bart for clarifying, I'll now have to decide how FLAC compares to WAV :-)

Posted on: 26 July 2015 by Harry

Many don’t hear a difference between these two formats and if you fall into that cohort your troubles will be over shortly. Some of us can hear a difference in favour of WAV. But all is not lost. I retagged about 1200 WAV albums when I went from HDX-SSD to Minimserver. It was therapeutic. It also highlighted a lot of errors in the tagging. I now have a collection which contains all of the correct tags. Much of the conversion is done using batch processes. 

Posted on: 26 July 2015 by hungryhalibut

Don't forget that you can transcode flac files to WAV on playback. In my experience WAV sounds better than FLAC, and transcoded FLAC files sound exactly the same as native WAV. So by storing in FLAC and transcoding, you get the best of both worlds - smaller files with decent metadata, and the best sound. 

Posted on: 26 July 2015 by robgr

Thank you all for your advice

Posted on: 26 July 2015 by Bart

Rob I rip to flac with my uServe, and tell it to transcode to .wav when serving back to my players. Best of both worlds.

Posted on: 26 July 2015 by robgr

If I do chose to rip as FLAC and transcode to WAV what is the correct setting for 'Transcoding' under Miscellaneous Settings?

Does this setting only apply to HDX rips?

I have downloads in both FLAC & WAV and various sample rates and bit depths

Whilst it'll likely be fine to also transcode those FLACs to WAV would the sample rates and bit rates stay native for such FLAC & WAV download files?

Posted on: 27 July 2015 by robgr

For the sake of others here's the reply from Phil H, (thanks Phil)

The setting you want would be ‘Decode’ and that would apply to *ALL* files played via the HDX’s UPnP server and the sample rates and bit depth would stay as per the source file format…

 

Posted on: 28 July 2015 by Daveas

I am doing the same thing but on UServe. There doesn't seem to be a Decode option, only Transcoding - which I have set to WAV and Transcode Media Type - Should I set FLAC to  True?

Posted on: 29 July 2015 by Bart
Originally Posted by Daveas:

I am doing the same thing but on UServe. There doesn't seem to be a Decode option, only Transcoding - which I have set to WAV and Transcode Media Type - Should I set FLAC to  True?

In n-Serve for OS X, in the Maintenance section . . . under Transcode Media Types set flac to "true."

Posted on: 29 July 2015 by Daveas

Thanks Bart