UnityServe splitting tracks out of folders

Posted by: u77033103172058601 on 30 August 2015

Just downloaded the latest Society of Sound Shostakovich (2 and 11).

 

Downloaded files cannot be stored on the U-Serve (which is another gripe) and so they have to be stored on a connected NAS, transferred from the 'downloads' folder on the iMac. On the NAS (and indeed the iMac) the folder appears as a single folder with 7 tracks (3 for Symphony 2 and 4 for 11).

 

Once the U-Serve has done whatever it does to consolidate its library with the NAS library, I am presented with 2 folders on the U-Serve. One contains 6 tracks, the second only a single track (the 3rd movement of Symphony 2). Why does the U-Serve do this and what can I do to rectify it? I do not want to mess around setting up playlists, that is complete anathema to me.

Posted on: 30 August 2015 by hungryhalibut

It will be an issue with the tagging. Maybe one track is of a different genre. Ensure the album, genre and album artist are the same for all tracks.

 

The latest UnitiServe (the 2TB model) has a downloads folder, so having it upgraded is an option. 

Posted on: 30 August 2015 by KRM

Hi Nick,

 

HH is almost certainly right. I too have the old Userve (1tb with no download file) and subscribe to Society of Sound so I'll download it later this morning and report back. I use Metadatics for Mac and Media Monkey for Windows.

 

By the way, I don't consider the lack of a download file to be a problem as you would still need a NAS as backup.

 

Keith

Posted on: 31 August 2015 by KRM

The third movement has a different Track Artist: Valery Gergiev, Mariinsky Orchestra & Chorus. All the others are: Valery Gergiev, Mariinsky Orchestra. The Album Artist is always the latter.

 

You will need to edit the metadata and rescan.

 

Keith

 

Posted on: 08 September 2015 by u77033103172058601

Thanks KRM. 

 

By the way, the US downloads folder (which I have as the US is less than a year old) is a waste of time as that folder does NOT back up with the main music folder. I wonder if NAIM can explain that particular oversight?

 

Having the downloads on the NAS at least ensures that all downloads get backed up onto the USB drive I have connected to the NAS (and the US music is backed up onto the NAS and the USB).

 

Now, I just need to find a suitable tag editor (and drop a line to B&W to get their act into gear!).

Posted on: 08 September 2015 by KRM

No problem Nick,

 

I use Media Monkey for Windows and Metadatics for Mac to edit metadata. I always have a little look at the metadata before putting files on the NAS to check for this kind of thing. 

 

Keith

Posted on: 08 September 2015 by Bart
Something is amiss re your use of the Downloads folder; the files can be stored there, but you're right you need to back it up on your own.  I use Carbon Copy Cloner for OS X and it works quite well.  I back up to the nas, and then also to an external usb drive. Belts and braces.
 
But as to the tag editing, especially with stuff you purchase online like the files you're dealing with now -- it'll be a lot easier to check the tags BEFORE you add them to your server, vs. discovering later that something is wrong .KRM's suggestions are good ones.
 
Originally Posted by Nick from Suffolk:
Downloaded files cannot be stored on the U-Serve (which is another gripe) and so they have to be stored on a connected NAS, transferred from the 'downloads' folder on the iMac.

 

Originally Posted by Nick from Suffolk:

 

By the way, the US downloads folder (which I have as the US is less than a year old) is a waste of time as that folder does NOT back up with the main music folder.

Posted on: 08 September 2015 by KRM

Yes, the Unitiserve can be a bit funny if you change the data in a share. In the past, I've had to delete, rescan, add the corrected files and rescan again. I find it helps to add new shares from time to time so that rescanning is quicker. 

 

Also, Bart is right - you need to back up your downloads asap, if you're not doing it already.

 

Keith

Posted on: 09 September 2015 by u77033103172058601

I will look at using the Metadatics utility, thanks.

 

All of my downloads on the NAS are backed up, automatically, onto a USB (which backs up everything on the NAS) and I retain all the files on the Mac as well, which is backed up to a Time machine. What I don't like is that the downloads folder on the US cannot be set to automatically back up onto the NAS, unlike the music folder; it's just a folder!

Posted on: 09 September 2015 by u77033103172058601

Indeed, just had a quick look using the free download and it did the trick; there is only the single 'disc' now as seen by the UServe. I now need to work out how to split this, and other, double albums into separate 'discs.' Vinyl is so much easier than this!

Posted on: 09 September 2015 by KRM

The easiest way to split double albums into two CDs is to give the tracks on each CD different album titles. You can split them into CD1 and CD2 as well, but it's best not to give the Unitiserve any excuse to get confused!

 

Keith

Posted on: 09 September 2015 by Bart
Originally Posted by KRM:

The easiest way to split double albums into two CDs is to give the tracks on each CD different album titles. You can split them into CD1 and CD2 as well, but it's best not to give the Unitiserve any excuse to get confused!

 

Keith

Keith, do you find that the UServe supports the multi-cd tags? I think that I don't!  I typically give discs different names (usually putting CD1 or CD2 into the title itself to accomplish this).

 

Conversely, I often turn multi-cd sets into one single 'album' on the server, for simplicity sake.  This means editing the metadata so that they all have the same title, and having the track numbers just run consecutively.

Posted on: 09 September 2015 by David O'Higgins

We should not have to put up with this tagging crap (unless we want to!). We need to insist that the seller provides the goods sequenced as CD1 followed by CD2 , within one folder, will appear as such whatever software we use to Stream it. After that, those who wish to  may re tag  them anyway which turns them on. 

Posted on: 12 September 2015 by u77033103172058601
Originally Posted by KRM:

The easiest way to split double albums into two CDs is to give the tracks on each CD different album titles. You can split them into CD1 and CD2 as well, but it's best not to give the Unitiserve any excuse to get confused!

 

Keith

That is what I thought I might try and do, but your slight cynicism is making me rethink. At least I don't have to try and build playlists on the fly any more and the US is only feeding the kitchen MuSo.