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I'm not sure the Hugo has enough power to work with speakers, except possibly full horn designs (which give 105dB or more per watt)

i don't have experience of the specifics you mention, but for me the Hugo works well powering an old Musical Fidelity P270 direct, sounding better than when I had played through a Tag McLaren PA10 preamp. 

The Hugo's volume control takes a little getting used to compared to a standard knob! but is not an issueinitial volume setting on switch on is pleasantly loud for most source material, and provides ample range for quiet listening or really loud playing even with quiet recordings. 

you've nothing to lose trying without a pre-amp, as the worst you have to do is get one if you don't find it suits!

Sounds like good questions for the Chord forum.

Hugo works very well into SN, I use mine with an SN2 to good effect.  It is also possible to use it to drive an amp although its a bit of a pain getting up to turn up/down the volume.  I used mine with a Nap100 which worked well.  No idea how it would work on a Nap 250.  Unless the speakers are active I can't see how it would drive a set of speakers but I haven't tried it and wouldn't know how to do so with the outputs on the Hugo.

Further to my reference to horn loudspeakers, I believe the hugo is capable of something like 2W output max, which with full horn speakers (bass as well, not just horn HF) could give maybe 108 to 113dB max, assuming it is capable of providing that into the loudsspeaker impedance, and assuming 15-110dB/W Speaker sensitivity.

If that rating is absolute, it will mean maximum peak level not just average, but should allow reasonable levels in a moderately sized room. non-horn loudspeakerns at 10dB lower even for efficient ones will be quiet.

Gents

Thank you for your quick answers.

Yeah may be I am a bit off site with the Hugo, anyhow love the Naim Sound at the end of the  outcome, if that is ever possible with this little miracle.

It is just what I will try?

Supernait with Focal Diablo?

And then save up for a better Amp?

All the best

Jorg

You may be surprised how good it will sound into a SN.  I have no experience of the Diablos so can't comment 

Thanks dayjar

I will give it a try at my local dealer, the diabolos are just in my mind because of a good deal a friend of mine gave to me. SN may be the right solution for my limited space in my listening room.

Best regards from Swiss

Jorg

Why don't you take the yugo out of the equation and enjoy the real Naim sound with a NAC 272 + NAP 250Dr combination or buy a Superuniti ?

 phosphocreatine

well the reason I am asking experienced fellows is to save time

If you do not know Hugo, that is OK.

272 will not match Hugo sorry to say

250 DR or 300 DR might be a solution as an Amp for Hugo 

Pre Amps mess up the magic I was told...

Best Jorg

You may also have been told that the moon is made of cheese. 

Naim power amps don't work well without a Naim preamp feeding them !

earth is flat, at least in the world of economists

People to find new ways to make our sounds more beautiful and work very hard on an unforgiving subject deserve respect. This respect is not given from myself only.

Best regards from CH

Sorry to say you may not know but  the moon's a balloon  and cheese is no match for that I have been reliably informed.  

SJB

I love Cheese

Being Swiss

so cool you guys

Why is that?

Yes they can.

The NAP 100 directly fed from a fifty five year old tuner cum pre-amp from Leak made the 100 sound a million dollars, and the the Leak fell down, but it will do it again!

No rule is complete without an acknowledged exception!

ATB from George

Well  the cheese is known at my place, the moon remains with the unfaithful...

Best 

JR

Because you can't hear anything. 

still enough to know, like Ludwig composing the 9TH without that privilege of hearing

Not old enough 

Jorg

Well Nooner why do you assume that I don't know the yugo ?

In my opinion the yugo mess up the magic and a good preamp (which is not the yugo: the yugo is a highly regarded headphone DAC) is the base of good sound quality (at least in a Naim setup).

You asked a suggestion in a Naim forum and me and other fellow forum members are answering your question: if you don't like our answers and if you are just looking for accondescending followers it's your problem.

P.S. I'm Italian and I also like cheese ! Smile and relax: it's all about a wonderful hobby that has many facets and not a univocal black or white truth !

Whilst I can't comment on other amps etc etc I can, from personal experience, confirm that the nap100 works very well indeed with a Hugo feeding it (rather better than with a UQ2 feeding it too)

Naim power amps (RARELY) work well without a Naim preamp feeding them !