Superuniti or Supernait2??...Again.
Posted by: mikeybaby on 16 October 2015
I've been reading some threads on this but would like some additional thoughts. I will eventually have to decide between a SU and SN2. I am currently auditioning a SU, and from memory of owning a SN2, the SU sounds warmer and creamier with better flow but the SN2 punchier, more prominent midrange and more power but more glare...
Using SN2 bare, which would you recommend?
I'd say the Supernait is a big step up from the SU amp. A bit of an unfair comparison, though; if the natural partner to a Supernait is an NDX, it's in a different league to the SU, but at double the price, what else would you expect?
Source is a CDX2...
Source is a CDX2...
In that case I'd definitely go for a Supernait on sound quality.
Votes?
Supernait by large
The two are an unfair comparison, similarity, the word "Super".
If you intend to meet the CD player as your primary source of music, there seems little point in getting a SuperUniti. If on the other hand you intend to move to streaming and want an all in one, the SU is an excellent choice.
So spacey are you saying neither are any good? both fall short?
I will look into the 172 for sure. Would it gel with a 250 HCDR?
250.2 that is.
Oh dear, how people get in a muddle. The pairing would not be good, as the 250 is too good for the 172. If you already have a 250.2, the 272 would be the way to go. It's self powered, so no need for a Hicap. But we are now looking at a totally different scenario from where the thread started. I'd have a good look at the product pages and the price list, and come up with some affordable alternatives to try.
Come to think of it, as you are playing CDs, the 282 would be the way to go, but the 282, Hicap and 250 are over twice the price of the Supernait. Do you want streaming, cd, or both?
If you have owned SN2 not beeing entirely happy, go for separates
Also upgrade your source with PSU and maybe CDS2 or 3 level headunit
maybe get the source done firstly
I will look into the 172 for sure. Would it gel with a 250 HCDR?
IMHO the 172 is a bit of a dark horse, it'll be worth trying with a 250.2....... its not going to make the sun go black if you catch my drift ;-)
Review of it here: http://www.whathifi.com/naim/nac-n-172-xs/review
Personally speaking, I found the 172/155 more than enough and has that old school Naim thang about'itz, plus the RRP is £3200 ish and there's deals out there where you can buy both for £2500.
Saying that if you look on ebay theres also some BNIN SUs for £2500... the choice is yours!!!!
Oh dear, how people get in a muddle. The pairing would not be good, as the 250 is too good for the 172
Is this a combination you've heard?
Oh dear, how people get in a muddle. The pairing would not be good, as the 250 is too good for the 172
Is this a combination you've heard?
He has 272/250DR in case you missed he'll soon gonna tell you
Oh dear, how people get in a muddle. The pairing would not be good, as the 250 is too good for the 172
Is this a combination you've heard?
He has 272/250DR in case you missed he'll soon gonna tell you
I kinda heard about it, somewhere....
I've been reading some threads on this but would like some additional thoughts. I will eventually have to decide between a SU and SN2. I am currently auditioning a SU, and from memory of owning a SN2, the SU sounds warmer and creamier with better flow but the SN2 punchier, more prominent midrange and more power but more glare...
Using SN2 bare, which would you recommend?
I was in a similar situation about two years ago. I had demoed the SU (which I found very good but not as good as the SN2) and I was planning to sell my 20 years old CD player. But I was not convinced ethernet streaming was the way to go and the SU mostly makes sense as a one-box streaming solution. In the end I bought a SN2 and a second hand Naim DAC. My main rationale for choosing the SN2 over the SU was to achieve a very clean separation between amplification concerns and digital-to-analog conversion concerns. I have not regretted this choice and I am very happy with my current system. I think you would do nothing wrong with a SN2: it gives you most flexibility. Should you later want to move to internet streaming or to USB streaming, the SN2 could stay. And should you later decide to sell it, for whatever reason, you would likely be able to do so at a very good price. Best, nbpf
Oh dear, how people get in a muddle. The pairing would not be good, as the 250 is too good for the 172
Is this a combination you've heard?
He has 272/250DR in case you missed he'll soon gonna tell you
I kinda heard about it, somewhere....
My neighbours son missed it so he's over the moon now he knows
Hah! Salty stuff ![]()
FWIW, I used to own SN2, but because of cost restrictions and overpowering bass (in my small 16 sq m room) I let it go. To be honest, I don't necessarily miss it, and I like the warmer presentation of the first SN better - and, if I remember right, I think that's why I liked the SU more as well on that short audition. The Nap200 (non-dr I think) also has a warmer feel to it, and I prefer it's presentation to the SN2, which can sometimes sound just a wee bit clinical - not harsh or forward, just a bit... distant. So if you like that kind of thing, go for SN2. But if it's warmth you require, I think N-172 + Nap200 might really be worth auditioning, should that combo fir your budget. For me, the flow of the music is much more important then ultimate detail and instrument separation.
Wow! warmth and 200 mentioned in the same sentence….![]()
Wow! warmth and 200 mentioned in the same sentence….![]()
Maybe it was the stinkin' Audioquest Type 4 speaker cable - that's apparently not such a good thing for Naim. I mean, researching the Anticable compatibility with Naim, I learned that solid wire that's twisted has high capacitance, and you need to use it untwisted. Since the Audioquest is apparently twisted, and they also don't publish electrical specs, I'll just assume it was the Audioquest's fault (which, indeed, had a tendency to tame stuff quite a lot)