Ripping music DVDs to my NAS

Posted by: overprint on 27 October 2015

The last few weeks have been a voyage of discovery ripping CDs to my NAS/NDX combo and there is now light at the end of the ripping tunnel.

 

My question - I have a collection of music DVDs so naturally I was wondering how to go about ripping them so I can play the files via HDMI from the NAS into my smart TV?

1) What software is recommended? I assume DBPoweramp is sound only....?

2) Which file formats offer the best sound & video quality?

3) Presumably the answers to 1& 2 apply also to feature films on DVD?

 

Any advice, much appreciated. SWMBO is pushing for the DVD boxes to follow my CDs into storage in the loft!

Thanks

Posted on: 27 October 2015 by Huge

I think this should be in 'Home Theatre' rather than in 'Screaming Audio'

Posted on: 27 October 2015 by Bert Schurink

I would advise you to rip the Pcm two channel part of your dvd's and then you can play them on the highest audio quality through your NDX ....

Posted on: 27 October 2015 by tonym

Yes, better in the Home Cinema section. Anyway, you can rip the soundtrack only using DVD Audio Extractor and audio/video with Handbrake but, beware, if the DVD's protected Handbrake will rip it regardless but you'll end up with gobbledegook. AnyDVD HD will (alledgedly!) remove any protection but it's PC only.

 

I've ripped the soundtracks of all my music DVDs/BluRays and the quality of most is excellent.

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by feeling_zen

MakeMKV will extract a DVD or BD to MKV container as is without transcoding ay of the content. This is how I ripped my movie collection.

 

While this is without question the best way to retain the data as-is, the caveat is support for MKV falls into 2 tiers:

 

  • The player has to support the MKV container file
  • The player that supports MKV has to support the individual audio and video stream formats in the MKV file (such as native DTS or DTS-HD etc.).

 

I have found consistent support for this to be nigh on impossible. My Denon DBT-3313UD streamer plays these MKV of my NAS perfectly but the files crash my Sony TVs if played directly without converting the video inside the MKV to MP4 files but I absolutely do not want to do that. I found using Plex streaming software overcomes this. Therefore, I put music and movies on the same NAS but rip audio with EAC and dbpoweramp, and rip video with MakeMKV. Streaming achieved with Asset for the music folder and Plex for the movies folder.

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by james n
Originally Posted by feeling_zen:

MakeMKV will extract a DVD or BD to MKV container as is without transcoding ay of the content. This is how I ripped my movie collection.

 

While this is without question the best way to retain the data as-is, the caveat is support for MKV falls into 2 tiers:

 

  • The player has to support the MKV container file
  • The player that supports MKV has to support the individual audio and video stream formats in the MKV file (such as native DTS or DTS-HD etc.).

 

I have found consistent support for this to be nigh on impossible. My Denon DBT-3313UD streamer plays these MKV of my NAS perfectly but the files crash my Sony TVs if played directly without converting the video inside the MKV to MP4 files but I absolutely do not want to do that. I found using Plex streaming software overcomes this. Therefore, I put music and movies on the same NAS but rip audio with EAC and dbpoweramp, and rip video with MakeMKV. Streaming achieved with Asset for the music folder and Plex for the movies folder.

I think you may have just answered a question i asked in the HT section 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Phil Harris

Someone I know very well (*cough*) uses AnyDVDHD to rip BluRays and CloneDVD to rip DVDs to ISO images ...

 

Of course MakeMKV can be used to extract movies to MKV if you want to go that route but it'll drop the HD audio tracks by default unless you reselect them...

 

Phil

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by feeling_zen
Worth noting that support for raw iso playback on DLNA devices is even less than MKV.

I used Jriver which does support iso streaming and transcoding but the video quality was appalling and its handling of subtitles beneath comment.

But ripping to iso for archiving is by far the most hassle free. Still, MakeMKV isn't exactly rocket science.
Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Harry

Are you proposing to rip the soundtrack for playback or rip the DVD for watching?

 

If the soundtrack is required, I have had success with DVD Audio Extractor as mentioned above.

 

To rip the DVD so that it can go into storage like all my CDs, I use AnyDVD to rip the DVD to an image , put it on a NAS and play it back via a WDTV box. It's so easy. I wish I had done it years ago. 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Phil Harris

The "person I know" uses various small format PCs to play back the ISOs ... he mounts them using VirtualClonedrive (along with AnyDVDHD to skip the protection) and then just uses a software DVD player to play them - the only problem is that PowerDVD now includes Cineva compliance which is a bit of a pain in the proverbial...

 

Using MakeMKV to generate MKVs obviously gets round that but needs a bit more involvement to make sure all the correct audio and subtitle tracks are included (but then again it also allows you to drop any unnecessary audio and subtitle tracks as well) and obviously MKVs are playable pretty much immediately (BluRay ISOs still take a while as the BluRay disc "loads" even after mounting the ISO image).

 

Cheers

 

Phil

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by james n

Thanks folks - Looks like i've got a solution so i'll have a play when i get home tonight with MakeMKV. 

 

James

 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by karlosTT

+1 for makeMKV.  Free, effective, and a delightfully simple/straightforward piece of software.

 

Phil I didn't totally follow your point that it drops the HD tracks by default.  IME it picks up all the original soundtracks from the disk (eg DTS 5.1, LPCM stereo, different languages, etc) and puts them in the mkv container.  From there, the player can allow selection of whichever soundtrack you choose, by menu (subject to it being capable/compatible per Felling Zen's comment).  No ?

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by dayjay

+2 for makeMKV.  Free, effective, and a delightfully simple/straightforward piece of software

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Phil Harris
Originally Posted by karlosTT:

 

Phil I didn't totally follow your point that it drops the HD tracks by default.  IME it picks up all the original soundtracks from the disk (eg DTS 5.1, LPCM stereo, different languages, etc) and puts them in the mkv container.  From there, the player can allow selection of whichever soundtrack you choose, by menu (subject to it being capable/compatible per Felling Zen's comment).  No ?

 

 

Using a clean install of MakeMKV on a Bluray disc you can see that it defaults to deselecting the multichannel HD audio tracks *AND* the Dolby Digital stereo audio tracks ... if you want them preserving just make sure you select them again.

 

Phil

 

 

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Posted on: 28 October 2015 by karlosTT

Aha.....cheers Phil !

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by james n

Thanks chaps - works perfectly 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Guy007

+1 DVD Audio Extractor for DVD and Blu-ray Audio on a PC.

 

You just have to be careful with the settings as if you select a non 96/24 file it reduces all the selected files to the 'lowest' sound level.  You do have to rip to WAV and then use the DBPowerAmp to convert into Flac et al.  Takes about 15 mins for 6 channel 96/24 album.

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Guy007

I just checked out MakeMKV.  Looks good will have to do some comparison, but for both this and DVD Audio Extractor, they are free for 30 days - so you can try before you buy - then you have to pay...

Posted on: 29 October 2015 by Phil Harris
Originally Posted by Guy007:

I just checked out MakeMKV.  Looks good will have to do some comparison, but for both this and DVD Audio Extractor, they are free for 30 days - so you can try before you buy - then you have to pay...

 

Not exactly correct as far as MakeMKV is concerned ...

 

MakeMKV is *FREE* while it is still in Beta (and it has been in Beta for several years) ... you *CAN* buy a license key for it (if you wish to help out the author) but there is a continually updated rolling *OFFICIAL* license key on the MakeMKV forums that if you go to the effort to check for (it's always in the same place on the same post) then you can use that to keep your copy of MakeMKV activated until such time as it goes final.

 

Cheers

 

Phil

Posted on: 29 October 2015 by Guy007

Thanks for the tip Phil.