S U P E R L U M I N A - Is this the biggest improvement ever?

Richard,

The dem is booked for 5th December

Kevin

richard, i suspect you will end up with this new SL speaker wire ... i believe its a good choice.

i need 4x7m  -- and that is serious dosh -- but i expect i will probably succumb at some point...

good luck and 

enjoy

ken

I will try to drop in to see it and say hi if yiou are there.

Richard

Richard

Are you doing a straight choice between SL and NACA5 - or would you be tempted to try alternatives?

Chris

are there any alternatives? tehe... :-)

enjoy

ken

The Urika has the sound of a tube amplifier, whilst Superline/Supercap has a more bombastic, full, fleshy and involving sound. The sound of naim...

Suffice it to say that I prefer the Superline over the Urika.

If anyone has a pair, could they tell me the exact size of the square bit? I'm wondering if they'd fit through my trunking that runs under the fireplace. Somehow I think they will be too big. I wonder if the square bit could be removed and then replaced?

This new computer era, I can't hear your voice, but for some reason I sence you won't be a happy trooper, once they have left the premise!

""Returning my SL speaker cables from my home loan tomorrow.

It has been a great experience over the last two weeks with them.

Wonder if I will miss them ""

The dims of the square bit give or take a mil are 26mm across the cables X 35mm along the cables X 14mm thick.

There are 4 small screws on the back of the square bit but am not sure what lies within. An e-mail to Naim should advise if the square bit can be removed and replaced safely without any damage.

Only time will tell Richard. 

Richard

Take your credit card , you'll miss them

Kevin

HH,

When I installed mine behind my fireplace I had the same issue.

The plastic block at one end has the extra bits. The plastic block on the other end just looks pretty.

I took the pretty block off threaded it through and then put it back together.

I know some folk will be shaking their heads at this but it worked for me.

The block is 27mm x 14mm.

Regards,

Nick

HH,

It measures approx 25mm x15mm in cross section. Are you seriously considering the SL speaker cable? Looking at your system set up I would guess you'd need about 5m. Wouldn't the money be better spent on a 300DR?

Let's say I'm vaguely considering whether it might be an option. I'm not going to have more boxes (three is the self-imposed limit) so the wires could be something to optimise the system. I think there is just enough space the fit them behind the speakers, then I thought about the square bit and thought it might be an unconquerable obstacle. But if the fancy bit can be temporarily removed they might be viable. I might give them a home dem one day, now I know more about them, but realistically I'm looking about a year ahead, especially if 5m lengths are required. Many thanks to those who supplied the measurements. 

Nick,

          Did you actually remove the blocks from both ends? Out off curiosity what were the extra bits. I'm interested how the cables are "tuned". Which end are they in? Some say they are resistors.

Apologies to Richard or Naim if I'm treading on confidential ground.

The bits are at the amp end.

If I recall, they are simple resistors between the two wires.

Clearly it does the trick...

Regards,

Nick

According to the HiFiCritic review, there is a damping resistor connected to the cable shields (braids) of each pair:

" This braid is not actively connected, save via a low current 10kohm damping resistor (the value chosen for our 7m lengths) interconnecting the floating shields. This will drain away a proportion of any environmental RFI induced in the cable run."

Source: https://www.naimaudio.com/site...%202_July%202015.pdf

Actually it's exactly 75,000x 2 pence

haha... that explains my hesitation then... its the thought of counting 75K tupence coins

enjoy

ken

Iron Cobra posted:

I changed from superline/hicap/hiline to urika. Urika is far better IMO. Exact? not convinced either. Interested in Booplinth for LP12 have dem at SORG in 2 weeks

Hi Iron Cobra,

Did you have that Booplinth dem?

I saw the plinth in the shop but have not had a dem. I must say that it was 'poor' that the dem plinth had a few bamboo pin prick holes in it otherwise seemed solidly built!

RIchard

FangfossFlyer posted:

Returning my SL speaker cables from my home loan tomorrow.
It has been a great experience over the last two weeks with them.
Wonder if I will miss them ��

Did you miss them?

Or fully re-tuned into NACA5 again?

DB.

Darke Bear posted:

FangfossFlyer posted:

Returning my SL speaker cables from my home loan tomorrow.
It has been a great experience over the last two weeks with them.
Wonder if I will miss them ��

Did you miss them?

Or fully re-tuned into NACA5 again?

DB.

I must admit that the system still sounds mighty fine with NACA5 and I only miss them a little  bit but not enough to rush out and purchase them at £5,400 as for me it is not value for money.

But if I come across a spare wodge of cash after my 500 service and DR upgrade then I would reconsider.

There again I am still to dem the DIN-XLR SL and 4-5 pin DIN SL when Naim get round to producing one..... and a wall shelf..... and nice new plinth would be nice... and possibly a new top plate ....and I am resisting listening to the new B&W 802 Diamonds!

But I am still delighted with my system so the music plays on.

Richard

For me the SL Spaeker cables did more than I heard the DR 500 upgrade do for about the same price, but in different aspects of performance as I before mentioned, so having both the SL and DR will be good.

Presently the full SL loom I purchased a few months ago seems to have run-in rather wonderfully, but it is hard to separate these from the change to the S1 Pre, which did rather a lot too. Suffice to say the combination is sumptuously good at present and seems to have really taken-off in performance from what I considered great a few months ago. The timing, clarity and insight into the music is beautiful. Bass weight, power, tightness, depth and perceived phase-linearity projects the performance into the room with depth and realism.

But the strange thing I find is that the tracks seem to last longer and yet everything is quicker in timing. I was playing an old Madonna Album 'Like a Virgin' and it seemed that there were suddenly a couple more bits of depth to the digital recording than I'd heard before; acoustics of her voice in the environment it was recorded gave the impression of her standing there not as a point-source of sound but as a real person singing and expressing the vocals of the songs.

This is not an Album I thought particularly good before, but suddenly it became very different. The bass-riffs have more power and 'start-stop' quality that draws you along and into the music and bass percussion was awesome in power, depth and tightness.

So going to this thread's title 'is it the biggest improvement ever' I could not say unequivocal 'yes', as context does matter, but my system is transfigured musically from what it was nine months ago with the old cables, so they probably did help with that.

DB.