Asset UPnP

Posted by: John Burrow on 18 November 2015

I have my library stored on and Synology NAS and playing to my NDS through Asset UPnP running on a Mac Mini, for some reason ever day to two asset looses the library, with a message saying library contains 0 track and 0 albums, I then go through the process of reloading the music folder on the synology, asset then rescans and then we're up and running again. It's all rather tedious. I'm running asset premium and last week reinstalled the programme, it went well for just a few day. I'm loving TIDAL integration but until the buffering problem is sorted it's unusable. Would anyone have any suggestions.

Posted on: 18 November 2015 by hungryhalibut

The usual suggestion is to load the server software on the nas, but in this case asset won't work on Synology, albeit with a very few exceptions I believe. Perhaps you could load minim directly on the nas and take the Mac out of the equation. 

Posted on: 18 November 2015 by Mike-B

Not sure how Asset UPnP loaded on a Mac Mini will work taking data from a Synology to an NDS & why you would want to do that.  Why not run the Synology with its own native Media Server or the other included package Minimserver direct to the NDS?.

Asset & Synology do not work together, or at least neither are approved/supported to do so   -  shame really as I like Asset when I've used it on other systems 

Posted on: 18 November 2015 by Simon-in-Suffolk

It sounds like Asset is restarting or similar and when it does the network file links to your music are not up hen Asset checks they are there and therefore assumes you have no files.

the answer will most likely be:

stop asset from restarting

if asset restarts ensure network file links  are in place and active.

 

You could load Asset media server on the same device such as the media such as on a NAS, but I do realize this doesn't always provide the best solution in terms of performance and in my experience SQ but is simpler and many on this forum appear to do this and works sufficiently well for them.

 

 

 

Posted on: 19 November 2015 by Mike-B

Problem is Simon both Asset & Synology refuse to get together,  Illustrate (Asset) say its a matter of scale & they do not see enough demand to justify it - strange as Synology is one of the most popular NAS's around.  Synology just say they don't support Asset & point out they have two ready loaded audio specific Media Servers in the included 110 strong add-on package file.

I am not aware of anyone who has done it with the full fat Asset & according to an IT buddy its not worth the bother as Synology already has its own excellent MS & Minimserver preloaded.

 

However it is possible to load Asset for Raspberry Pi on some Synology,  maybe possible on others/all,   but it is not simple UPnP & still requires a level of IT skills .  

 

 

Posted on: 19 November 2015 by musica

Hi

l am interested in Simon's reply particularly the question of SQ when using a server installed on a nas. This is something I have not come across before. Have any other members found this to be the case. Currently I have Assett installed on my Qnap NAS and have been happy with SQ. However I am always open minded about suggestions to improve SQ. Is it then possible that if I were run Assett on a Raspberry Pie I may get improved SQ.

 

philip

Posted on: 19 November 2015 by LeeTom
I believe the connection between your Mac and NAS is being severed when the Synology spins down its disks. Set your Synology to never spin down and see if your connection stays alive. I have the same setup and it doesn't lose connection like yours does, so I think you can make this work.
Also check that your Mac never goes to sleep.
Posted on: 19 November 2015 by Simon-in-Suffolk

Philip, yes the TCP windowing parameters and timing on the media server have always for me had a subtle affect on SQ. I have written about this on the forum over the years.

Now the difference in SQ comes from the electrical noise processing the Ethernet traffic on the Naim device. This can differ from firmware to firmware and also using a separate offboard DAC to the streamer like an NDAC or Hugo can lessen the effects.

Now I happen to have learnt that Naim are aware of this Ethernet processing and possible noise - and it may well be in a future firmware that the Ethernet noise produced is reduced further thereby reducing these effects of different media sources.

 

I found the UnitiServe, Assus WHSv1 box and RPiv2 (Debian) have sounded best when acting as a media server.

 

Mike - ok understand your points about Synology and Asset - shame

 

Simon

 

Posted on: 19 November 2015 by musica

Thank you Simon for the information. I understand what you are saying. I will pursue this further in the near future.

 

philip

Posted on: 19 November 2015 by John Burrow

Gentlemen, Thank you very much for your detailed reply's. The NAS is a DS410 and quite old, I would much rather have Asset running on the NAS itself but thats not supported, I did try to load java and Minim server but found that was beyond my IT skills, I can live with the Synology music server however asset is a far faster and and overall a better user experience. I'll try your suggestion Lee and and stop the discs from running down. The other idea is to get a Quaps with asset already loaded, I set one up for a friend and it was perfect, but that will be a huge expense.