naim app and uniti display not in sync

Posted by: balma01 on 21 November 2015

I'm using a uniti, a naim app on ipad, and asset upnp on qnap. Everything is at the last version.

Since the last   upgrade I noted that the app and the uniti are not in sync:

if I select, for example,  album01  browsing with the app upnp/artist01/album01  and after I go to the uniti dispay to change the album, I see that the display is positoned to artist02/album02, the last one I selected with the display. Here I look for artist3/album3 and I play it, going back to the app I see that it's positioned on arist1/album1, the last I selected with the app. and so on...

Hope to have been clear with my poor english.

 

Posted on: 21 November 2015 by hafler3o

Most synchronisation problems between streamer and nas and app. can be cured by doing one or other (or both to be more thorough) of the following.

 

On app. go to upnp input, select clear upnp cache, clear it.

kill the app. (upswipe) then restart the app.

 

Once an album consistently displayed the wrong cover art (despite two independent tag editing programs showing the right art in place, and many attempts at re-ripping, replacing art, etc) The solution was a rebuild of the nas database, option accessible through a webpage 'dashboard'. That is a last resort for stubborn problems!

Posted on: 21 November 2015 by balma01

Thanks hafler3o, 

I did evrything you suggest but the result is always the same I descibed.

Posted on: 21 November 2015 by hungryhalibut

This happens with my 272 as well. If you choose everything from the iPad it is ok, and what shows on the unit is the same as the iPad. But if you choose the album on the front panel, what you see is what you last chose via the front panel. 

 

So so I think everything is ok. The answer is just to use the iPad. 

Posted on: 21 November 2015 by hafler3o
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:

... But if you choose the album on the front panel, what you see is what you last chose via the front panel. 

 

So so I think everything is ok. The answer is just to use the iPad. 

Sorry balma01 I missed the bit about moving back to the display, HH is right here, the units and the iPad work independently, it is very rare I use the display!

Posted on: 22 November 2015 by balma01

Thanks, so the problem exist, I'm not the only one. It's not a big problem but for who, like me, that do not 'owns' the ipad everytime is annoying. Hope to have a fix in the future.

Posted on: 22 November 2015 by hungryhalibut

We have an iPhone as well as an iPad. If I open the Naim app on the iPhone, the album I see is the last one I played via the iPhone, which may have been a week before, as I usually use the iPad. So the iPhone, iPad and front panel are all independent. I've never thought twice about it until now. It doesn't worry me at all - it's just the way it is. 

Posted on: 22 November 2015 by hafler3o
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:

 it's just the way it is. 

Agreed, two iPad minis in this house and it's quite normal not to be showing the same 'thing'. 2 pads control three Uniti devices here. They should by design be independent. There is no 'fix' required as the 'fix' would cause a lockup or confusion when (for instance) my wife and I listen to different music on different machines via separate control points (pads) at the same time.

Posted on: 22 November 2015 by balma01

I remember that before the last upgrade the app and the uniti dispaly were in sync. I do not agree that they have to be independent, I think that all the devices that are controlling a uniti must be in sync and if a device is controlling more than one uniti, it has to be in sync with the uniti that you choose inside to rooms. This is a real multi user and multi device environment.

Posted on: 22 November 2015 by hafler3o
Originally Posted by balma01:

I remember that before the last upgrade the app and the uniti dispaly were in sync. I do not agree that they have to be independent, I think that all the devices that are controlling a uniti must be in sync and if a device is controlling more than one uniti, it has to be in sync with the uniti that you choose inside to rooms. This is a real multi user and multi device environment.

I think you misremember the first part.

All devices that control a uniti are in sync, because only one is allowed to control the unit at once, thus one is in sync and any others are now 'shut out' and either doing nothing (not selecting conflicting music, inputs or volume wars) or controlling another uniti and therefore syncing with another unit would be very unhelpful. Devices do not control more than one uniti at a time, in multiroom the command and music signals controlled from the master device is resent by the master at a lower bit rate. I'm sure Naim have thought long and hard about the mechanism for allowing most recent choice by sofware control points to influence where the Uniti's displays currently 'shows' itself. Maybe it's not worth either the cost, engineering, testing, sq impact or the processing overhead to be implemented. It's never bothered me in the slightest.

 

What I find amazing is I can pause a piece of music mid-stream, go to bed, wake up, press the play button and it picks up from the place I left it seamlessly even with the NAS drive having powered down. Now thai IS useful.

Posted on: 22 November 2015 by balma01

I agree with you hafler3om, my last post was not clear because my poor english. Anyway I  think that when I select a path in the upnp tree using the app I wish  (and it was) that  the same path was selected in the uniti display. This is very helpful for those are using the app and the display as two different control point.