Roger Waters

Did they play together, or just stand there hating each other?

The Wall was great, thirty years ago, but it's a bit sad that Rog can't play something new, in my opinion. But he'll be happy counting all the spondulicks, I suppose. All those fans making a rich man richer still.  

Gilmore played comfortably numb and Mason (unplanned I believe) along with Waters and Gilmore did a little rendition of behind the wall - Roger absolutely acknowledged he had been a bit of a "cock" 30 years ago.....

I was 11 in 1981 so this was an opportunity to see the wall live for the first time for me - pretty special as it was an album I loved in my later teens. I saw Pink Floyd in 94 (Division Bell) and musically it was a better show - non the less it was pretty spectacular.

The irony of the money making machine (£20 for a crap tour book and £30 for a t-shirt) and Roger's preaching and idealism is not wasted on me. I take a more pragmatic view these days in that the show would have never happened unless it was financially viable - that's rock and roll in the 21st century.......

Gary 

Very cool. That is one reunion I would pay big money to see. His US tour was well received but just not the same without David playing guitar. imo.

Graham,

Roger has been playing /touring all his solo stuff for years since he left the Floyd after the Final Cut.

Their was years of  great new stuff.

Saw The Wall back in London 1980 and last month in Prague.

Seen the YouTube clips from last night with David Gilmour.......all I can say is......

I have tears in my eyes!

Marvellous.

Richard

Roger has been playing /touring all his solo stuff for years since he left the Floyd 

Roger thinks he didn't leave FP,  he owned it so the others left - (didn't they?)

Its a bit sad as Roger has not moved on,  but if the O2 show gives pleasure to the faithful then good for him. 

David on the other hand at least does his own new stuff,  even when he was with PF he recorded his own material & now continues with that & plays with numbers of other artists.  

DG at Gdanske is an outstanding CD & DVD, the On An Island tracks are more alive than the CD; not that OAI is dead,  but it is kinda slow if your not in the right mood.  

I saw PF play in the very early days, even pre PF when at Cambridge

Later some special nights around London & Leeds  - I think ?? if I remember  

I guess Rogers Pros and cons of hitch hiking/Radio K.A.O.S/Amused to death/In the flesh and his Opera dont count then?

On these terms 'In The Flesh' doesn't but I agree about the rest as the natural progression from the angry shouting on 'Final Cut'......( bet Dave thought he'd almost got the title of that right)

Nothing Roger has done since the Floyd split count compared to the best PF material,  some is OK but its not in the same league.  IMO he has not got close to what he did either on his own or with the others,  But even so their is some controversy over who was the composer on a number of things,  DSOTM is supposed to be all Rogers work,  his concept, maybe.  But many believe this is not so, its just that they let him get off on whatever kept him happy.   I see it as a cloud of left overs from Syd & not needing to go that way again.  

Who knows - what he did with or without the others or whatever he did after PF is a matter of personal choice,  just like I don't like all PF, especially the Syd era stuff, whereas others believe this to be the only true PF.      

> just like I don't like all PF, especially the Syd era stuff, whereas others believe this to be the only true PF.   

I don't know whether it is the only true PF, but I like by far and away the early Singles, PATGOD, Madcap and Barrett more than anything else recorded by PF or members thereof.

PATGOD was a landmark album and in many ways is Syd Barrett and the Pink Floyd. It is up there with Sgt Pepper, Village Green, SF Sorrow, Anthems in Eden and 5000 Spirits in this respect. PF's Eldorado or even BITDHSS. 

Subsequent records were PF, Syd's backing band, emerging on their own and making some good solid records. Their best post Syd work, for me, being AHM and WYWH. The Wall seems most definitely a solo by Roger and none the worse for it. Perhaps the final cut should have been just that. 

I remember reading a few years ago that the original members of PF were reuniting for one of those live-aid things and getting midly excited, only to learn Syd wasn't well and stayed back in the hotel (well at least somewhere in Cambridge). What we heard was a surrogate band, but they were very good nonetheless. I'm not sure Syd would have added anything as after 1967 he couldn't really play live. 

Is PATGOD, the only PF album in my top 100 (as indicated by those I give 5 stars to in my iTunes ratings - possibly childish, but I do that for some reason)? Well yes it is. I'm sure others view this differently, but to me Syd was the best of PF.  

I saw the show here in LA area, I think Waters stretched it out to include more than anti war and fascism for today, hate of all kinds.  Visually it was very powerful tho I know purists want the original guys.  glad I took my ear plugs.

The original at LA in 81,  I had no idea what I was getting into, so it was quite thrilling.   I hadn't bought the ticket and thankfully didn't have to drive to the stadium, an expert concert goer arranged it all.

Roger Waters is the guest on Desert Island Discs, next week (BBC Radio 4). Should be worth checking out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b011j39v

This week's show featured Debbie Harry, which I thought was rather flat.

Interesting that Roger Waters and Debbie Harry both chose the Adagio from Mahler's Fifth Symphony as their 'single' pick. I agree that DH was a bit flat; RW certainly wasn't.

I enjoyed Roger too. Not a lot new to hear, but he seems very open and considered.

It probably helps that I like Roger Waters own music.

Debbie Harry was like watching paint dry, which is even less interesting on radio as you can't see it, plus Kirsty Young was fawning over her.

I saw Debbie live in Camden just before they hit the big time in the 70,s.

I was right up the front standing.

She had on a pair of thigh length boots and a very short skirt.

I had no blood left in my head.

It was a great show.

Saw her again at a bike show in the late 80s early 90's.

The magic had gone.

She was quite old when Blondie made it by todays standards for female singers though.

G.