DSD via Unitiserve SSD

Posted by: MMcCulloch on 12 December 2015

Is it possible for the Unitiserve to send DSD (in DSF format) to the NDX/nDAC yet?  I ask because I've upgraded my NDX & nDAC to play DSD, and have confirmed that they can. But the DSF files I loaded onto my network are not seen by the Unitiserve (that is, they do not show up on the UPNP for the NDX via the app).  Is there a solution to this? Thanks.

Posted on: 12 December 2015 by ChrisSU

No, the US can't stream DSD. 

Posted on: 04 January 2016 by Sourav

Is it still true after the latest upgrade of US dated on Dec 14th, 2015 ?

 

Regards,

Sourav

Posted on: 04 January 2016 by Claus-Thoegersen

Not 2015, if it is 1.7B that was released in  2014, long before DSD or Tidal integration arrived for the streamers.

Claus

 

Posted on: 04 January 2016 by Sourav

It is 1.7b. I mistook Dec 14 to be Dec 14th instead of Dec 2014.

In that case people using Naim Streamers and nDac with UnitiServe/HDX are not going to get DSD support.

Regards,

Sourav

Posted on: 04 January 2016 by Paul Quigley ie

I sure hope UnitiServe/HDX will get DSD + Spotify + Tidal +HLS AAC internet radio streams.

It seams to me that UnitiServe/HDX technology is being left behind at the moment.  I hope this is just a short term thing.

Paul

Posted on: 04 January 2016 by hungryhalibut

Naim have said that the servers won't get Spotify, Tidal etc because these are streaming services, and the servers are servers not streamers. 

Posted on: 04 January 2016 by Sourav

But what about DSD support ? If I need to get a DSD file stored in US and accessed by NDX/ND5-Zs how do I do that ?

 

Regards,

Sourav

Posted on: 04 January 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Pull it from your NAS, rather than have it pushed by a server.

or put it on a Memory Stick (not elegant - I know)

Posted on: 04 January 2016 by Sourav

Pulling it all from NAS is surely an option. But that raises the question that why would one go for UnitiServe at all - only for bit perfect CD ripping ? At the same cost one can get ND5-XS which will do everything UnitiServe SSD does except CD ripping and running as a UPnP server.

I'm really confused by Naim's positioning of UnitiServer.

 

Regards,

Sourav

Posted on: 04 January 2016 by Adam Zielinski

I don't really understand your last answer.  What is confusing about a UnitiServe, beyond a fact that the CURRENT version does not yet serve DSD files?

NAIM streamers only got the DSD playback a month ago....

Posted on: 04 January 2016 by Claus-Thoegersen

I still believe that one of the problems with the servers is that Naim needs outsiders to code the software. And to decide what to do about the old version of Windows xp on the servers. If the server software is more or less out of development I would hope that new buyers are told that very clear.

I can easily live without dsd support, but Tidal support would have been great.

Claus   

Posted on: 05 January 2016 by redalphabet

I am thinking of adding a Userve - can I confirm from you that it's not possible to listen to Tidal through the Naim app with one, thanks?

Posted on: 05 January 2016 by Sourav

Yes. Neither Tidal Support nor DSD support is yet there in UnitiServe.

My issue is I'm not able to know whether it is coming in future so that I can still make an investment now.

Regards,

Sourav

Posted on: 05 January 2016 by Bart
Sourav posted:

Yes. Neither Tidal Support nor DSD support is yet there in UnitiServe.

My issue is I'm not able to know whether it is coming in future so that I can still make an investment now.

Regards,

Sourav

Given that Naim do not (usually) pre-announce the addition of features, I suggest that you plan on not knowing, and acting accordingly.

Posted on: 05 January 2016 by redalphabet

OK I will wait and see as well then. Thanks for the reply. 

Posted on: 05 January 2016 by ChrisSU
redalphabet posted:

I am thinking of adding a Userve - can I confirm from you that it's not possible to listen to Tidal through the Naim app with one, thanks?

Naim streamers support Tidal and are controlled by the Naim app. The Unitiserve is controlled by a separate app called N-Serve, and doesn't support Tidal. If you already have a streamer or DAC to use with a Unitiserve, does that have Tidal support?

Posted on: 05 January 2016 by redalphabet

no - I currently take the output from my PC sound card into my Dac and I was hoping therefore to do a one stop with the Userve. I can look at the Streaming options instead. Thanks for the reply. 

Posted on: 05 January 2016 by Adam Zielinski
redalphabet posted:

I am thinking of adding a Userve - can I confirm from you that it's not possible to listen to Tidal through the Naim app with one, thanks?

UnitiServe is a UPnP server / cd reaper, not a streamer per se.

Currently DSD playback is. Ot there, but than again the current software version is 1.7d. It does have a digital output for a connection to an external device with a dac or dac itself. That way music can be played back directly from the UnitiServe.

As to Tidal - that is available via NAIM streamers.

Posted on: 05 January 2016 by Adam Zielinski
redalphabet posted:

no - I currently take the output from my PC sound card into my Dac and I was hoping therefore to do a one stop with the Userve. I can look at the Streaming options instead. Thanks for the reply. 

Sound quality of US should be superior to that fom your Mac.

perhaps you could use Tidal on your Mac and stream from there into a dac, leaving US to do what it does best: reaping, cataloguing and serving great sounding music.

Posted on: 23 January 2016 by Chag...

So any speculation yet for a possible update or even upgrade of the US's - Firmware or even hardware to take most recent features of the Melco's and others onboard? 

Chag -