The Smiths are the ultimate band- official

dayjay posted:

Are they New Romantics?

New Pervs more like.

I'm sold, wonder if I can get them on dsd

dayjay posted:

I'm sold, wonder if I can get them on dsd

"Slug Bait" and "Maggot Death" sound awesome on SACD, let me tell you. And if you want to listen to "Zyklon B Zombie", it's gotta be in 192/24 bit hi rez.

Hungryhalibut posted:

I simply cannot abide prog, which seems incredibly popular among forum members - ELP, Porcupine Tree, can't stand them. But I can appreciate the musicianship and the craft involved, even through the self indulgence. 

I simply cannot abide dividing music into prog and not-prog. Most great music is progressive in the wider sense of the word.

I some bands that are classified as prog I like and others I don't. Neither am I are sure that the prog-ers have a monopoly on self indulgence and musicianship. Ironically, Johnny Marr is one of most gifted musicians out there and didn't get that good without indulging himself, I suspect.

I loved and love the Smiths. It was a great time for music - the Smiths, New Order, the Cocteau Twins, Billy Bragg etc. Happy days.

Earlier today Strangeways Here We Come could be heard emanating from my eldest son's room. He loves all those bands and some prog (not ELP though!).

Keith

Clive B posted:

I have just checked on Tidal and found that some Smiths albums are available there, although not the John Peel Sessions.

It's on Hatful of Hollow, which is on Tidal.

Keith

KRM posted:

Clive B posted:

I have just checked on Tidal and found that some Smiths albums are available there, although not the John Peel Sessions.

It's on Hatful of Hollow, which is on Tidal.

Keith

Thanks, Keith.  But there's only so much Smiths one can bear in one sitting. Maybe I'll try some more in a few years time. 

KRM posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

I simply cannot abide prog, which seems incredibly popular among forum members - ELP, Porcupine Tree, can't stand them. But I can appreciate the musicianship and the craft involved, even through the self indulgence. 

I simply cannot abide dividing music into prog and not-prog. Most great music is progressive in the wider sense of the word.

I some bands that are classified as prog I like and others I don't. Neither am I are sure that the prog-ers have a monopoly on self indulgence and musicianship. Ironically, Johnny Marr is one of most gifted musicians out there and didn't get that good without indulging himself, I suspect.

I loved and love the Smiths. It was a great time for music - the Smiths, New Order, the Cocteau Twins, Billy Bragg etc. Happy days.

Earlier today Strangeways Here We Come could be heard emanating from my eldest son's room. He loves all those bands and some prog (not ELP though!).

Keith

Clearly a well brought up young man. 

Kevin-W posted:

What a load of crap.

Anyone who knows anything, or in possession of a functioning pair of lugs, knows that the ultimate band is Throbbing Gristle. And that really is official.

This reminds me when from I was at an art school that recommended us students to see an arty performance" so I took myself to see Leigh Bowery's Minty performing in London.

the Smiths in the short career produced the most enduring music that appeals to a wide range of audience (15-60?)  30 years later.

I was lucky enough to see them and work with them. I treasure  every memory as if it were yesterday!

Hungryhalibut posted:

This year's Connection magazine has arrived. On page 9, the (rather wonderful) Jon Green - the engineer behind the equally wonderful 272 is asked 'what would be your favourite track to play to show off the potential of a Naim system?'  The answer - not some Naim label noodling, not some prog rubbish, but the mighty Smiths, world's best band ever - specifically 'What Difference Does It Make?' from the 1983 John Peel sessions. 

Clearlynow that The Smiths are Naim approved, everyone will finally realise that I've been right all along. 

hahahahhahahah...

dayjay posted:

HH, I think you make a good point above.  You can dislike music very much whilst still recognising that the artists are talented.  I have friends who worship the Smiths - they rave about the music and guitar in the songs and for me to discount that would be wrong.  Likewise I can't abide jazz but that doesn't mean I can't see that there are some very talented musicians playing it.  Live and let live I say, we don't all have the same influences and life experiences so we can't all like the same music.  Of course if we did we would all love Rush but it wouldn't be as much fun then.

 

I have tried to listen to the Smiths and can't get past his voice.  Is there an accessible album that you would recommend for a non Smiths fan to try?

tolerance in diversity. like that.

Oh No! - why oh why have you resurrected this thread? - you will only encourage HH to bang on some more about how wonderful they are.

Clive

Heaven knows, I'm happy now. Pass the rubber ring. This is a thread that never goes out. 

Cdb posted:

Oh No! - why oh why have you resurrected this thread? - you will only encourage HH to bang on some more about how wonderful they are.

Clive

Sorry?!

please please please, let him get what he wants

If he had called the thread "After the Beatles. The Smiths are the ultimate band" then we could have had a meaningful debate 

Keith

"The Beatles notwithstanding" is probably a caveat to be put on most bands' musical legacy.

Yeah, there's The Beatles, and then there's every other band, even those fortunate enough to have had Paul - Wings for example.

How can this thread have possibly made its way back to the top of the list again?

I think if we're talking about a list of ultimate bands, the Smiths would be buried somewhere on page 348.

And that's only if the list were published with a very small font size.

IMHO of course.

Phil Collins is surely jealous.

KRM posted:

If he had called the thread "After the Beatles. The Smiths are the ultimate band" then we could have had a meaningful debate 

Keith

couldn't_have_said_it_better_myself

Clive B posted:

How can this thread have possibly made its way back to the top of the list again?

I think if we're talking about a list of ultimate bands, the Smiths would be buried somewhere on page 348.

And that's only if the list were published with a very small font size.

IMHO of course.

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