At long last the tellurium is sorted.

Hello to all, 

I haven't posted in a while, having moved to tubes (heresy, I know), but remembered fondly the discussion about Tellurium Q speaker cables and found an explanation about what is so special about Tellurium at the Eichman site where they talk about Tellurium-Copper alloy and the benefits.  

http://www.eti-research.com.au...es-tellurium-copper/

Best to all, 

Mike

dopeydog posted:

hi,a while ago i posted for some advice on the tellurium black speaker cable & interconnect.today we actually fitted the tellurium silver speaker cable and i can tell you now that the result was outstanding.To recap the system is supernait 2-cd5xs-flatcap-hicap....hiline & chord epic twin & spendor 6.

the soundstage was much wider,the detail was much improved,everything was improved.On the jap blu-spec 2 edition of Kind of blue it was as if a veil had been lifted.The jap edition of elvis & r.p.o. was so outstanding the depth of elvis voice was superb.

Im leaving on the hiline for a month for everything to settle then if I'm satisfied ok if not the graphite or ultra black  interconnect is the next step........ps the cables were burnt in by the shop for 100 hours plus.

How are those silver cables sounding now? 

MikeT. posted:

Hello to all, 

I haven't posted in a while, having moved to tubes (heresy, I know), but remembered fondly the discussion about Tellurium Q speaker cables and found an explanation about what is so special about Tellurium at the Eichman site where they talk about Tellurium-Copper alloy and the benefits.  

http://www.eti-research.com.au...es-tellurium-copper/

Best to all, 

Mike

Interesting link, but it only seems to talk about Tellurium adding machinability and durability to Copper; nothing about sonic effects. Or am I missing something?

cheers,

Rob

hi,the tellurium silver speaker cable is excellent.like i said it was burnt in for 100+ but it still seems to be getting better.....today I'm replacing the interconnect with a tellurium graphite.kept the hi-line on for a few weeks then changed to a chord anthem 2 ,which i preferred but saw a graphite on the bay at a very low auction price so i took a pop.ill let you know how i got on.....just a side thing i tried a russ andrews attenuator on with the anthems and it gave a freer use of the sn2 volume control,a + in my book.

Dopeydog, they will continue to improve with time I've owned graphite ic before and just like all of the TQ range they seem to take an eternity to burn in but wow when they do it's worth the wait.

have you bought ultra silver speaker cables? I bought a pair of ultra silvers that I've never ended up using as a pair of ex demo black diamond speaker cables became available at a price I couldn't resist so I never got to hear the ultra silvers.

I've heard the graphite IC. Sounds fantastic. Seems to work really well with UB speaker cable. Not heard any of the TQ silver cables though. I'm keen on hearing Black diamond speaker cables next 

thats good to know about the graphite,thanks...the top end of ultra silver and diamond black i think are just a jump to far for my pocket.....there is a naim dac,the big one,going in for a trial 16 feb so looking forward to that....through all of these changes the one thing that stands there always is the sn2 wouldn't think of changing that,top top amp.

Yeah I'm a fan of the SN. Heard the SN2 a short while ago and really liked it too. The TQ cables really suit them I've found 

Next demo for me might be the TQ mains cables 

I've not moved to tellurium q power cables yet instead I replaced the stock fuse in my naim powerline with a synergistic research RED tuning fuse and it's really had a leap in performance. Synergistic research stockists do a 30 day money back guarantee so for just £60 you can have a risk free trial....I have no plans to return mine.

Yeah I'm using an SR Red in my stock leads too

I use a Hermle Tellurium - it's absolutely fantastic.
In fact, it's so good, I use it as my Avatar 

Robbor posted:

MikeT. posted:

Hello to all, 

I haven't posted in a while, having moved to tubes (heresy, I know), but remembered fondly the discussion about Tellurium Q speaker cables and found an explanation about what is so special about Tellurium at the Eichman site where they talk about Tellurium-Copper alloy and the benefits.  

http://www.eti-research.com.au...es-tellurium-copper/

Best to all, 

Mike

Interesting link, but it only seems to talk about Tellurium adding machinability and durability to Copper; nothing about sonic effects. Or am I missing something?

cheers,

Rob

Hi Rob, your not missing anything.  Eichman talks about its superior ability to make a clean contact which is what they are mainly using it for in their applications.  

There has been almost NO data that I could find that would explain what I hear as superior definition.  I have found several sources that state that Copper/Tellurium alloy is more resistant to corrosion so it's quite possible connections stay solid longer.  

Easier machinability could also mean smoother surface when drawing wire to smaller dimensions.  

I can only guess because the hifi manufacturers that use it seem to be very secretive about what makes it special other than the fidelity claims.  

Best,

Mike 

Hi Mike, thanks for the reply. You're right that we can only speculate about what might be going on, though I do rather like your idea about smoother surfaces when producing wire.

I guess it is also possible that alloying small amount of Tellurium with Copper could somehow alter conductive properties in a way that has sonic benefits.

Ultimately, I suppose that as long as we can detect and enjoy auditory/musical improvements we can put up the cognitive "itch" of not knowing what is really going on...?

cheers,

Rob

Agreed. And what would we do with the stats if we had them? Would it influence our choice? I personally love the TQ sound but I know it's not for everyone. To me the improvements with their cables in my system are hugely impressive. With every cable upgrade I can hear the improvement and I'm amazed at how much of my music I've been missing. Theres no going back now! 

i think the biggest stats are your ears.i know that the tellurium silver bought a big change to my system and the graphite interconnect is getting better every day so whatever they do i don't care they did something great to my naim system. 

Second that! In the end what counts is what you yourself hear, and what you enjoy in what you hear. Stats and specs are a different narrative, though they can be interesting and entertaining  in their own way.

Hope the graphite continues to improve.

Knipester posted:

I've not moved to tellurium q power cables yet instead I replaced the stock fuse in my naim powerline with a synergistic research RED tuning fuse and it's really had a leap in performance. Synergistic research stockists do a 30 day money back guarantee so for just £60 you can have a risk free trial....I have no plans to return mine.

Took a sceptical punt based on your post above, and installed it an hour ago

Whether down to:

(a) this fuse

(b) unplugging and reconnection of my powerline

(c) my newish TQB speaker cables hitting optimal co-incidental 'burn-in', or

(d) something in the air tonight 

right now there's a truly positive (but hard to articulate) improvement in the listening experience

I had the same experience. I can't quite put my finger on it but it sounds better with the Red in place. 

Glad my suggestion has proven a good one for you! I was sceptical but given the 30 day return policy took a punt and I found that the sr red fuse sharpened up the sound instantly. They do improve as they settle down too!

well our fabulous norfolk naim dealer came today and installed the naim dac(the big one)...the set up now completed; HI-FI RACK SLIMLINE...SUPERNAIT 2..DAC..CD5 XS...FLATCAP.+ TELLURIUM SILVER SPEAKER CABLE      +  TELLURIUM GRAPHITE INTERCONNECT. the speakers had a 100 + hours burn in and the interconnect,although used is still running in and it is getting better all the time.the sound i find is absolutely great,in fact i would go as far as to say I'm a very happy naim fan.....the need for more upgrades would be very expensive so me thinks....STOP............many many thanks tony at Basically sound.

What are you using the Flatcap to do?

the flatcap is through the supernait 2

Are you saying that you are powering the SN2 with the Flatcap, i.e. you have removed the link plugs and plugged in the Flatcap? If so, this will be significantly worse than using the SN2's inbuilt preamp power supply. If on the other hand you are using the Flatcap to power the CD5xs, but are now taking the digital output into the DAC, the Flatcap serves no useful purpose. 

Basically, in your system you don't need a Flatcap. 

Your dealer does not sound that fabulous if they don't know this. 

Totally agree , it sounds like you've got a dopey dealer . The SN2's big strength is its DR power supply . I'd be asking a question or 2 if I was you . Madness .

Pete