Demo'ing my 2nd SL wire...

seems only the links to my imageshack photos now appear and not the photos themselves? this used to work OK -- so this is another ehancement is it? else how do i now get the photos themselves to appear without faffing around? :-(

enjoy...

ken

Ken,

Putting those URLs into my browser all end up with ImageShack saying "This photo is currently unavailable".  So either there's a problem with their system or the URLs aren't correct.

Which SL cable are you trying, the Snaxo one?

Hope you feel better soon!

Graham

Ken use the direct links provided by Imageshack.  Then load into the insert/edit image pop up box with a description (optional) and then post - this is basically the same as in Hoop.la Mk1.  Like this...

Hope you get well soon.

thanks for getting the photos through Richard

in the old forum, the i always simply pasted the 'indirect' links from imageshack and this worked perfectly OK. 

enjoy

ken

a friend helped me to install the SL snaxo cable, so its in now. system is on NAT01 source right now (which is still warming up after full service @ Naim and connected only yesterday).

the help i needed was someone to lift the LP12 and NDS off the middle Fraim so that i could reach the appropriate DIN sockets on 552PS and snaxo's supercap -- after that was done, the connection itself was a piece of cake and the shorter length of this new cable was actually better for me cable-dressing-wise.

i will leave it warming up/running in now and report my impressions later... will use the NDS or LP12 sources so issues of NAT01 runin do not confuse the picture...

enjoy...

ken

If it is new then it takes a few days to run-in past its worst 'bright brash' phase, but before then it should be clear to you what it does.

Let us know what you make of it.

DB.

yes, its new, as far as i can tell DB. i will give it a serious listen tomorrow and report.

enjoy

ken

Darke Bear posted:

If it is new then it takes a few days to run-in past its worst 'bright brash' phase, but before then it should be clear to you what it does.

 

The bright brash phase was most prominent on the DIN4 to XLR that I've been trying to come to terms with over the past four months... The DIN to DIN (source to pre) interconnect got right down to action with no brashness, whereas the speaker cables took a few days before that phase was over. All were new, except for the speaker cables.

The DIN-XLR SL leads take a very long time to run-in. Mine were horrible for a few days after the initial few hours of being 'ok/good' - but actually it has taken more than three months normal use of my HiFi a few hours a day for these to totally transform their character. They can sound very 'reedy' and shut-in for a long while before blooming and opening-out - they are then incredible in the resolution and clarity they allow to pass through them.

The 4-pin-4pin SL Pre-Snaxo lead has some of that run-in too, but seems less awful than the DIN-XLR journey was.

DB.

I see in the picture that the SL 4 -4 pin DIN is 1m in length. I hope when Naim get round to a 4-5 pin DIN that there is a 1m option for better cable dressing between my racks.

Richard

Out of interest, how long is the Din to XLR? I'm hoping the answer is 1m. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Out of interest, how long is the Din to XLR? I'm hoping the answer is 1m. 

I'd be interested in the answer to this one too, before committing to a purchase.

I feel that the present one, (length unknown, as I'm not about to power down to disconnect and measure it), could do with being marginally longer, as the right channel connection in particular, between my 552 PS and the 300 NAP seems under a bit of tension in my two stack setup.

Cheers,

Dave.

Greetings Ken,

Newly installed SL cabling can be a capricious beast for sure, and like DB, you have a very revealing active system. The Ozark Mountain Daredevils had it nailed with 'It'll shine when it shines'.

I hope you're feeling better for Christmas.

John.

J.N. posted:

Greetings Ken,

Newly installed SL cabling can be a capricious beast for sure, and like DB, you have a very revealing active system. The Ozark Mountain Daredevils had it nailed with 'It'll shine when it shines'.

I hope you're feeling better for Christmas.

John.

 

 

Hi John -- good to hear from you! i will have a chance to listen to this new wire tonite -- hopefully i will be up it and the wire will shine... thanks for the good wishes John...

enjoy

ken

update. had a short listening session early this evening. its definitely not yet settled down - its definitely not 'shining' yet so i will give it some more time. i can sense a general direction where its heading, i think, so i guess the omens are good...

more later...

enjoy

ken

As you know, Ken, patience will be rewarded.

Mike 

For information - I did put my old original cable back for a while after a day of the run-in as the SL was un-listenable, but then it seemed to turn a corner and the balance greatly improved and the brightness went away. A few days after that I did and A-B comparison with JN in attendance and his comment on hearing the old cable was along the lines of 'aaarrrg, I can't be having that' - the SL cable was re-inserted and all was well.

It needs music played through it for a couple of days, probably with the Power Amps turned off - wind-up the volume to exercise them a bit more, but remember to turn it down when you put the Amps back on. But I didn't follow my own advice and just left the music playing and shut the door on the music room until it started making music again - then had a listen.

After the first day or so run-in you should like what it does.

DB.

Mike and Gary - thanks for advice. yes, i have to be patient. funny how one needs to remind oneself everynow and then. its more than 24hrs now on NAT01 source (which is also warming up after a service) and i dont feel its there yet. i could also tell when i played NDS briefly earlier on. 

hopefully it will be more 'cooked' tomorrow...

enjoy

ken

ken c posted:

hopefully it will be more 'cooked' tomorrow...

Ken - how long have you got left to convince yourself? 

Chris Dolan posted:

ken c posted:

hopefully it will be more 'cooked' tomorrow...

Ken - how long have you got left to convince yourself? 

i have to make up my mind by end of xmas break Chris... hopefully it will have settled into the system by then... right now, not yet.

enjoy

ken

Ken, You have my best wishes for a speedy recovery

Minh Nguyen posted:

Ken, You have my best wishes for a speedy recovery

Thanks very much Minh Nguyen...

enjoy

ken

ken c posted:

... right now, not yet.

Hi Ken.

I'm a little surprised you have not got any positive results after this time in your system. Obvious things are to check it is the correct way around and the plugs are centered and pulled-back a little, so they float. Also make sure the cable does not touch a hard wall or especially the floor, as that imparts an edge to the sound.

You may find, for whatever reason, it does not do what you want in your system. The old cable gives a fuller sound by comparison and may give the overall balance that suits the system. The old cable is revealed to be less coherent and murky compared to the SL cable when I tried it, but that was with Statement S1 Pre and Ovator speakers - Graham also tried it successfully with the same equipment, so it may not be right with other equipment.

In the end if you do not like it - return it and be happy to have saved some money!
The DIN-XLR will do more of this effect - I found these most difficult to run-in to remove all 'niggles', but they did run-in and work well now, which is good as I purchased three sets!

I hope it all goes well.

DB.

Hi DB,

thanks for following up on this:

- cable is the right way round -- source end on the 552ps

- all "push it right in and then out a mm" malarkey done at installation time

- cable is perfectly dresses -- not touching the floor or any other cable -- the fact that it is shorter helped a lot in this respect.

i really havent had a chance to listen to it in anger -- which is probably just as well -- so when i do, i hope it will be "there"... i do remember that the SL IC to the NDS did take quite a while so i am kind of not expecting it to turn the corner till about a week in. i dont believe there is any "incompatibility" issues between this cable and my system -- that would be really odd.

just needs time.. i think... i hope... :-)

enjoy

ken

I'd echo Gary's words.  When I tried my SL Snaxo cable it immediately sounded better than what it replaced.  However if you've not had a chance to listen to it carefully then that may explain why.  You must either be very busy or a masochist