Naim CES announcement?

To me the Muso is miles away soundwise from even a basic Naim stereo system. But maybe it"s not fair to compare the both.In terms of usability "No HDMI". otherwise it would be a no brainer soundbar.

We have undertaken extensive room correction on all four walls of the living room. The previous Laura Ashley Faded Gold has been replaced with Farrow & Ball Fawn. It's made for a much more relaxing listening environment, and therefore sound quality has improved. Paint - the new DSP. Decorating Sound Processing. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

We have undertaken extensive room correction on all four walls of the living room. The previous Laura Ashley Faded Gold has been replaced with Farrow & Ball Fawn. It's made for a much more relaxing listening environment, and therefore sound quality has improved. Paint - the new DSP. Decorating Sound Processing. 

Did you experiment with using a roller insead of a brush?

Funny you should say that. I used a brush and in certain lights it's a bit blotchy. The builder suggested using a roller and then finishing with a brush, but I ignored them! Perhaps I should have followed their advice. That said, it does look lovely overall. 

I think you'll find that it's the re-launch of the Aro and the long, long overdue matching Naim turntable.

John.

J.N. posted:

I think you'll find that it's the re-launch of the Aro and the long, long overdue matching Naim turntable.

John.

 

 

Naim Cassette Recorder of course ... the NACR01

Phil

Harry posted:

The Mu-So is the best device of its type that I have ever met/heard in terms of both sonic performance and usability. I'm glad to have two of them and I'm glad Naim finally delivered something which seems like it was built with my needs in mind. I hope they sell lots of them and that some of the money goes towards producing a Statement level Streamer or Streamer/Pre. If a smaller version was available we would likely buy two of them, subject to audition.

EDIT. Just seen the teaser video. Looks Musoid and cuboid. Difficult to say if it's a posher one or not but the form factor cone count leads me to suppose it's a more compact model. That would do us lovely. Pure speculation on my part of course.

Here here Harry. We've a Muso in our conservatory & I never fail to be astonished at its superb sound quality. Another forum denizen & I have come to the conclusion that if you've a small room, it's probably all the hi-fi you'll ever need. 

A portable naimistor radio or  put big speakers in it and call it the Salisbury blaster

MartinKocurek posted:

B&O also started few years back with BeoPlay products.. 

If Naim will still continue with production and development of Classic range I am ok with it :-)

After key asset sales and years of mounting losses B&O is for sale. Many question B&O's survival if it can't find a suitable partner. 

Bananahead posted:

If I was a teenager now I would be looking at wireless speakers. Then I might be tempted by whatever else the brand that I bought made. 

Teenagers are buying Bluetooth speakers and headphones. Wifi speakers are more expensive so they tend to be bought by generation x and older millennials.

GregW posted:

After key asset sales and years of mounting losses B&O is for sale. Many question B&O's survival if it can't find a suitable partner. 

That would be very sad. 

Phil Harris posted:

J.N. posted:

I think you'll find that it's the re-launch of the Aro and the long, long overdue matching Naim turntable.

John.

 

 

Naim Cassette Recorder of course ... the NACR01

Phil

Now you're talking Phil. Retro-fest!

Got those 808's yet?

John. 

If the Muso represents the Naim sound there is something really wrong with the sound of my Xs....

 Following the example set by Linn it's a new lifestyle fraim available in interchangeable colours called the NAF01

I would love to see a 282.2, but I can't imagine that capturing everyone's excitement in a CES introduction.  A Muso style product, with price and performance for a broad audience and attention-getting features - that makes sense for CES.

They can announce the 282.2 later with less fanfare...

Charlie 

dayjay posted:

 Following the example set by Linn it's a new lifestyle fraim available in interchangeable colours called the NAF01

I heard it was called the Really Useful System Housing. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Paint - the new DSP. Decorating Sound Processing. 

HH, that's a good one! i might try it someday...

as for the thread, Naim will make things that will bring ... money! this is the new fame and class...

remember, they made a lot of non-powered preamps stating that preamps should be as far as they can from a PSU... and now we enjoy 172/272... not only a PSU inside the preamp, but a computer too!!! this statement 10 years ago would have rolled eyes all over... now it's the new thing and standard. i see the 272 as the new classic, and the 272/250dr combo as the setup to keep Naim in business for many years to come.

rules are made to be broken... and if they will release mass market products, but keep the faithful lines at bay, i'm not bothered... today if you don't sell, you don't exist!!!

who would have thought some years ago that BMW and Mercedes-Benz will have cars with FWD... and engines from french manufacturers? and that Lamborghini will be just an Audi in disguise, or that the Ferrari will bring up the smaller turbocharged engines...

yes, it is a bad thing, that money dictates, actually the very downside of humanity, but if used right, that will mean funds for future classic ranges, hopefully.

fred40 posted:

If the Muso represents the Naim sound there is something really wrong with the sound of my Xs....

 If your Muso doesn't sound excellent there's something really wrong with it.

If youre statement is treu we will see in the next year some 200 hifi brands going bancrupt. Simply because they are not into lifestyle products. And if they really want to rival with Sonos that is not to difficult. Bring out mediocre stuff in fast volumes with average sound quality. And there you have it.

I don"t care as long as the profit trickles down on developing more High end products. Still enyoing Naim. 

tonym posted:

fred40 posted:

If the Muso represents the Naim sound there is something really wrong with the sound of my Xs....

 If your Muso doesn't sound excellent there's something really wrong with it.

I bought two Muso a while ago. For muzak it's ok playing in the background. But  a much cheaper wireless speaker can do the same thing. To me as I said,earlieer it can never replace a Naim dedicated stereo set.

fred40 posted:

tonym posted:

fred40 posted:

If the Muso represents the Naim sound there is something really wrong with the sound of my Xs....

 If your Muso doesn't sound excellent there's something really wrong with it.

I bought two Muso a while ago. For muzak it's ok playing in the background. But  a much cheaper wireless speaker can do the same thing. To me as I said,earlieer it can never replace a Naim dedicated stereo set.

Just the same as a cheaper wireless speaker then. Hmm. Wonder why you bought two...

I wonder to.

My guess is 'the' (Muso) has been auto adjusted to 'two' (Muso).

G

For muzak it's ok playing in the background. But  a much cheaper wireless speaker can do the same thing.

 

This is interesting. I have tried B&W A5 and Sonos Play 3 and 5.  None sounded as good as the Mu-So and of course, Sonos can't handle HiRes. The B&W was difficult to set up and clunky and unreliable to use although it did sound better than the Sonos units. But there are plenty of other potential candidates. Which do you consider to be the same as Mu-So? This could save me some money in 2016 which will be much appreciated.

Nice to see a potential new addition to the Mu-so family. I'm interested in seeing where this goes as the range extends. I currently have Sonos Play 1 for multi-room, casual listening (having never got on with how the Play 3 or 5 sound) and the system is great for that purpose.

One advantage of Sonos to me is their software platform and the ability to extend to many music services (vs. quality of music service). Will be interesting to see how far Naim extend their own platform to other music services in various markets, given their distinct focus on performance e.g. Pandora for the US market (distinctly not high quality but somewhat popular in general terms)?