Statement...

jon honeyball posted:

robert- posted:

Maybe they had too much money tied up in it and need cash flow.

No, I dont think so...

Your wrong 

How do you know he's wrong? Have you seen the dealer's bank account? 

Whatever they are great guys and will make decisions based on what's good  for them, why not? Of course we would argue keeping it is good for any naim retailer

I was presuming they intended to re-stock once it was sold.

Don Atkinson posted:

I was presuming they intended to re-stock once it was sold.

Wouldn't that depend on their sales success in the first instance. We'll soon know no doubt.

As I posted previously, if everyone is so interested, why not give Norman a call and ask him precisely why he is selling this and what he intends to do next. This thread is very weird. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

As I posted previously, if everyone is so interested, why not give Norman a call and ask him precisely why he is selling this and what he intends to do next. This thread is very weird. 

It's a forum Nigel. People discuss trivial things over which they have no influence. I don't think it would be at all polite to ring Norman and ask him what his reasons and intentions are. But speculation and gossip are the life-blood of a forum, newspapers, television, women's coffee-mornings. Stop trying to spoil things.

Hungryhalibut posted:

How do you know he's wrong? Have you seen the dealer's bank account? 

You really don't understand business do you.

joerand posted:

$140,000 will buy a respectable 3 bedroom starter home on a nice sized lot throughout much of middle America.

I've always fancied saying to an estate agent (Realtor to you Joe) - "I'd like to have a listen to some of your properties please".

John.

Have you fixed a date for a home-dem Ken? Shall we form an orderly queue outside your house on the appointed day?

It might be worth sending out tickets to avoid parking congestion.

John.

J.N. posted:

Have you fixed a date for a home-dem Ken? Shall we form an orderly queue outside your house on the appointed day?

It might be worth sending out tickets to avoid parking congestion.

John.

Tricky this one John. Due to the size of my listening room (which is really my office), i would have to demo to one person at a time? perhaps i will just stick to demo-ing it on my own, then, if i dont like it, i will not embarrass my cloth-eared self in front of guests :-)

or perhaps not arrange the demo at all, just in case i like it -- then it will get equally embarrassing when i say to the dealer "sounds great, but im afraid i cant afford it"  :-(

you evil one, you...!!  hope your system is singing its heart out John...

enjoy

ken

The readers of The Absolute Sound, for example, continually comment of the value and worthiness of ultra high end gear when it's reviewed. Many scream blue murder about the cost, whilst in the same breath admitting they can't afford it. I'm thrilled Naim, Solution, Constellation, Boulder, Passlabs ect make kit which is pushed to the technological extremes. Surely it must help in developing affordable kit, which has been proved with the brands mentioned since they have introduced lower range kit after developing the top end. I'd much, much rather Naim seek perfection without cost restraints, it must mean a) the company is healthy, and b) the team are on the continual search for better sound. I mean, it has to be better for us if Naim strive for Statement  than purely focusing on Muso. Two Bob audio companies mass produce dog shit products for the Costco crowd enmasse. The debate about cost is a philosophical one, I think about those in our world who are starving, and I ponder reality, however if I had just won our recent lotto ($70M)!!!  I would have chartered a jet to Naim HQ and ordered TWO Statements without blinking an eye. The old analogy is a true one, Ferrari and BMW technology now exists in my $25K car, so trickle down seems to work and all is not lost.  My only real concern is if Naim start manufacturing their main kit in China, if it's not proudly British, then it's gone. After all, my Bose cubes need a powerful amp to drive them!

Paul Stephenson posted:

We understand there is a limited market for this product but it has sold 3 times more already than our forecast.

 

Which is an incredible achievement and one that Naim can be very proud of. 

robert- posted:

jon honeyball posted:

robert- posted:

Maybe they had too much money tied up in it and need cash flow.

No, I dont think so...

Your wrong 

My wrong what? 

if there were no statement, we would not have the 250DR, 300DR or 500 DR.

and that would be a great loss to the people like me (and most of us on this forum) who cannot afford a statement.

Anyone with the older range of power amps, who hasn't hear a DR amp, should really make an effort to go to the dealer and hear one. It is better than the older range, whether CB, Olive or, the non DR 250,300 and 500.

analogmusic posted:

if there were no statement, we would not have the 250DR, 300DR or 500 DR.

and that would be a great loss to the people like me (and most of us on this forum) who cannot afford a statement.

 

Anyone with the older range of power amps, who hasn't hear a DR amp, should really make an effort to go to the dealer and hear one. It is better than the older range, whether CB, Olive or, the non DR 250,300 and 500.

Likely no Super Lumina either.

analogmusic posted:

 

Anyone with the older range of power amps, who hasn't hear a DR amp, should really make an effort to go to the dealer and hear one. It is better than the older range, whether CB, Olive or, the non DR 250,300 and 500.

why, if they are happy with what they have ?? 

enjoy

ken

ken c posted:

analogmusic posted:

 

Anyone with the older range of power amps, who hasn't hear a DR amp, should really make an effort to go to the dealer and hear one. It is better than the older range, whether CB, Olive or, the non DR 250,300 and 500.

why, if they are happy with what they have ?? 

enjoy

ken

I don't know about that Ken, Upgrading can be fun, waiting for delivery of that new amp, or new SL IC, even SL Speaker Cable.

 But for Active guys, I agree, if you're happy with what you got, enjoy your gear!

2/3 pair Speaker Cable

2/3 Amps

2/3 pair SL xlr ICs etc......

Upgrading is a killer for us Active guys!

analogmusic posted:

if there were no statement, we would not have the 250DR, 300DR or 500 DR.

and that would be a great loss to the people like me (and most of us on this forum) who cannot afford a statement.

 

Anyone with the older range of power amps, who hasn't hear a DR amp, should really make an effort to go to the dealer and hear one. It is better than the older range, whether CB, Olive or, the non DR 250,300 and 500.

Good point. The new DR'ed amps are very special, in part I'm sure due to the new 009 transistor developed as part of the Statement project.

ken c posted:

analogmusic posted:

 

Anyone with the older range of power amps, who hasn't hear a DR amp, should really make an effort to go to the dealer and hear one. It is better than the older range, whether CB, Olive or, the non DR 250,300 and 500.

why, if they are happy with what they have ?? 

enjoy

ken

Because the DR amps make what you already have sound broken by comparison. 

ha ha ... i know what you mean -- when pre-upgrade sounds "broken", then this is a sure sign of addiction... and so need to visit some "xxx anonymous" group... 

enjoy

ken

nothing to do with addiction. 

The DR amps are just so much better.

Notes emerge from an inky blackness, with NO audible distortion at all, (you will notice this compared to the older generation amps), and it just reminds me so much of real live music. 

The 009 transistors are faster than the 007 ones. 

The DR amps just get the best of out the source and preamp. 

Now I realize that the power amp and the actual transistor, actually has the hardest job to do, more than the source or preamp !

there is a reason why Jason Kennedy in his review of the NAP 250 DR (on the ear website) said this was the best Naim amp he ever heard, and one of the very power amps period.

Inky blackness! Total Hifi reviewer gobbledegook but a lovely expression nonetheless. It's true though, the background is incredibly silent, from which the quietest of notes emerge. It's very beguiling. 

and by comparison the older Non DR Naim amps sound broken to me.

sorry for repeating  

analogmusic posted:

and by comparison the older Non DR Naim amps sound broken to me.

sorry for repeating  

seek help immediately !!! 

enjoy

ken