Super Lumina re-termination

I think this is a question only your Naim dealer or Naim themselves can best answer.

Richard NAIM very kindly have emailed back that it can't be done, so thread is here for reference only now for later searches.

It is possible someone had this done and would have pointed me in the right direction.

So we will be buying 3m versions, bit of a hit but at least we know.

Thanks Richard, and NAIM support who came back very promptly with the answer.

Even if Naim could, I'm sure the cost of retermination would be more than the loss incurred by selling them on.

of course naim could. They made them from reels of cable in the first place.

The problem is that there is a parts cost, and then the labour on top. And insured transport to/from salisbury.  All of that is going to be unreasonably expensive compared to resale and purchase. And even if it isnt, it would be a ballache that I would fully understand them not wanting.

Yes it was worth asking as you never know, but agree with all the points above and that was factored in.

The issue has come up as the SL cables are just not selling on the open market and most quite rightly only require the 3m pair due to cost. These are not my cables BTW just thought I'd check if this was even an option.

Its not a major thing was just researching the possibility. NAIM have the capability to do whatever they desire I would imagine its probably just such a request that costs so much overall to achieve as to rendered an almost pointless exercise.

They could have said yes for £150 per 3m length, you just never know, but now we do... best.

jon honeyball posted:

of course naim could. They made them from reels of cable in the first place.

The problem is that there is a parts cost, and then the labour on top. And insured transport to/from salisbury.  All of that is going to be unreasonably expensive compared to resale and purchase. And even if it isnt, it would be a ballache that I would fully understand them not wanting.

Apparently each cable takes several hours to assemble, so likely the rework cost would be very high from labour perspective.

Dan43 posted:

Yes it was worth asking as you never know, but agree with all the points above and that was factored in.

The issue has come up as the SL cables are just not selling on the open market and most quite rightly only require the 3m pair due to cost. These are not my cables BTW just thought I'd check if this was even an option.

Its not a major thing was just researching the possibility. NAIM have the capability to do whatever they desire I would imagine its probably just such a request that costs so much overall to achieve as to rendered an almost pointless exercise.

 

They could have said yes for £150 per 3m length, you just never know, but now we do... best.

Really?  I agree that cost is a factor however there seem to be quite a few on here requiring more than 3m runs - myself included.  Likely anyone who doesn't have their system located between speakers.

Thanks Graham thats very true, perhaps it is just timing then that when used items become available that the individual as a buyer are not ready?

What I do know is the person who owns them can't seem to shift them, and they are abroad which maybe does factor in also?

I believe the balancing resistor thingy (the bit on the bridge bit? whatever, you know what i mean) has to be tuned for length. And that takes time and a lot of listening. Hence why arbitrary lengths are not (currently?) allowed. 

jon honeyball posted:

I believe the balancing resistor thingy (the bit on the bridge bit? whatever, you know what i mean) has to be tuned for length. And that takes time and a lot of listening. Hence why arbitrary lengths are not (currently?) allowed. 

Arbitrary lengths are possible, I have 7.5m lengths

Anyway, 3m IS a standard length so in theory they would know what resistor to change to.

Clearly it can be done: it's simply a matter of chopping the 9m cable into three 3m lengths, adding the plugs and the square bits and putting the appropriate resistors for 3m lengths in the square bits. Naim must have decided that while it can be done, it won't be done, which sounds like a sensible business decision to me, or there is a potential to be fiddling around with people's wires for huge amounts of time. By the time someone has bought the 9m length at the used price, and then paid for the retermination into three lengths, it's bound to cost more than three times the price of a 3m pair. It makes far more sense just to buy what you need.