What speaker cables do you use?

Posted by: wenger2015 on 25 January 2016

I started with the very basic chord rumor, that was a number of years ago, I didn't appreciate the significance of a real quality cable until quite recently, I am now a true convert of high quality speaker cables and interconnects.

I have since discovered the sublime tellurium ultra black speaker cables, which are exceptional, I know of course with another large sum of cash greater improvement can be made...so my question is what speaker cable do you use and why?

Posted on: 27 January 2016 by hungryhalibut

They are not mutually exclusive: the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' saying refers to the avoidance of unnecessary change. 

Posted on: 27 January 2016 by wenger2015

That's very deep for this time of the morning!!  I agree completely of course, lol,  but in reply to Corry, if you've had your speaker cables for 25 years ...

Posted on: 27 January 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Just had my morning shot of a double espresso... so all wired up

Posted on: 27 January 2016 by wenger2015

I need at least two expresso 's first thing in the morning....generally can't start sounding philosophical until early evening, so fair play to you..I'm impressed 

Posted on: 27 January 2016 by Corry
wenger2015 posted:

... in reply to Corry, if you've had your speaker cables for 25 years ...

I did have them reterminated a couple of years ago. But now I'm wondering if speaker cable degrades over time, even in the absence of any visible corrosion or mechanical damage.

My ancient (1988-ish) and much-loved CB 250 has been recapped a couple of times. Next time (unless I plump for a DR replacement), I'll inquire about having the speaker outputs replaced - I'm sure the insides of them are in poor shape by now.

Posted on: 27 January 2016 by Massimo Bertola

Vertere Pulse X mini, factory terminated, 2 x 5 mt. I also have a mint pair of NAC A5, 2 x 5 mt, Naim plugs at both ends, bought from a gentleman here who's very happy with SL, and kept in a box as emergency exit.

Posted on: 27 January 2016 by Massimo Bertola
Corry posted:
My ancient (1988-ish) and much-loved CB 250 has been recapped a couple of times. Next time (unless I plump for a DR replacement), I'll inquire about having the speaker outputs replaced - I'm sure the insides of them are in poor shape by now.

I still have a 1975 Pioneer SA 7300, whose pots and switches work flawlessly, and which sounds good. Your 28 years old amp is just a boy..

Posted on: 27 January 2016 by wenger2015

Sometimes old is just as good as new, but only sometimes!!! Maybe it only works if everything is old?

Posted on: 27 January 2016 by Jay Coleman

NACA5 with AV Options deep cryo

Posted on: 27 January 2016 by robgr

I'm now using RA Kimber Monocle-XL 2 x 2.5m

Posted on: 27 January 2016 by Ben00

2 times 10 m NACA5.  Took me a full day to pull them through my ceiling ducts.  No way anybody will get those out again. End of story - peace of mind... 

Posted on: 28 January 2016 by wenger2015

BEN00, Hope their not damaged my friend?

Posted on: 28 January 2016 by Loki

NACA5 of course: 2x9m! Now run-in after 5 months use.

Linn LK20 on the AV system.

Posted on: 28 January 2016 by wenger2015

I think your in good company with the Nac a5, have you ever considered SL's, seems to be the general upgrade path?

Posted on: 28 January 2016 by yeti42

NACA5, I tried a SL interconnect from CDX2/555ps to 282 but it lost the swing  (boogie, drive? all related I think if not the same thing to different ears) the SL speaker cable's bananas won't fit between the NBLs and the wall and I don't think there's a spade adaptor for pre ovator Naim speakers so I never tried SLs there.

Posted on: 29 January 2016 by Nic Chan

New to NAIM and m using NACA5 loved it and do t thing I'll change it anytime soon.

Posted on: 29 January 2016 by wenger2015

Yeti142, how does the cdx2, 555ps combination work? Is it a big improvement on xps?

Posted on: 29 January 2016 by yeti42

I thought so when I auditioned it in the Audio Ts demo room, the guy's in the shop didn't think there was that much in it when using it in the showroom but in the demo room it was a different matter, non Dr 555ps vs XPSDR, this with 282/SCDR/250 and Kudos C2 speaker more control and more fun, as long as the system is set up properly, this latter isn't trivial. I bought the year old demo 555ps there and then with the correct burndy for around the same price as a new XPSDR. My thinking was to replace the CDX2 with an NDS but I've never got round to it. NBLs, Transfiguration Proteus, a new 552 and 6 FFFraim shelves have come since so I'm obviously not that set on the streamer, I've run out of vinyl storeage and am eyeing up the CD alcove so it's only a matter of time.

Posted on: 29 January 2016 by Jonas Olofsson

Naca5 for 20 years. Did a real shot out a couple of years where I demoed Vertere, Sarum & Naims then different alternatives for a couple of months before I mind up my mind. 

At that time Sarum came out on top with Naca5 second, very different sound, there are (was) some stuff I really liked with Naca5. Tried Naca5 again in the system a month ago and couldn't hardly stand it. 

Strange. 

 

//Jonas

 

Posted on: 29 January 2016 by Foot tapper
wenger2015 posted:

Yeti142, how does the cdx2, 555ps combination work? Is it a big improvement on xps?

It will be interesting to read the experiences of others who have tried this - perhaps on the "CDX2" thread.  Having said that, I had a CDX2/XPS2 for several years, then tried a CDS3/XPS2 and a CDX2/555PS.  At the time, these 2 options were often considered to be of broadly similar ability but with very different strengths.  Both were a distinct step up from the CDX2/XPS2.  

In the end, I preferred the CDX2/555PS over the CDS3/XPS2.  However, a year later, the CDX2 had to go back to Naim for some TLC and my fiendishly cunning Naim dealer loaned the same CDS3 head unit "to get me by..."

I still have that CDS3 head unit and the 555PS, with no ambition to change.  This pretty much captures my views on these CD players & power supplies.

Hope this helps, FT

Posted on: 29 January 2016 by wenger2015

Very interesting experiences, I've got a cdx2 and I am planning to add an xpsdr sometime soon, but it has crossed my mind to get a 555ps nondr  instead of the xpsdr.

I'm heading for the Bristol hi-fi show, so thought I might wait and see if anything turns me on.....because once purchased I'm planning on sticking with it for the foreseeable...this is somewhat of an expensive hobby..

Posted on: 29 January 2016 by wenger2015

The Nac a5 seems to be like marmite ....you either love it or hate it.....the last demo I had, it was all the dealer had, I found it a little harsh to my ears.....and certainly a long way off Tq or Sl levels....

Posted on: 29 January 2016 by Adam Zielinski
wenger2015 posted:

Very interesting experiences, I've got a cdx2 and I am planning to add an xpsdr sometime soon, but it has crossed my mind to get a 555ps nondr  instead of the xpsdr.

I'm heading for the Bristol hi-fi show, so thought I might wait and see if anything turns me on.....because once purchased I'm planning on sticking with it for the foreseeable...this is somewhat of an expensive hobby..

If it's going to be a long-term investment go for 555PS. 

Posted on: 29 January 2016 by wenger2015

Adam, are you suggesting a 2nd hand 555ps nondr , which at the moment you can probably pick up for a similar price to an xpsdr ? I seemed to get the impression from previous comments , that it was an option that gave the most improvements...

Posted on: 29 January 2016 by Adam Zielinski
wenger2015 posted:

Adam, are you suggesting a 2nd hand 555ps nondr , which at the moment you can probably pick up for a similar price to an xpsdr ? I seemed to get the impression from previous comments , that it was an option that gave the most improvements...

Yes