Are you still using Tidal?

I agree that the Tidal catalogue does suffer in comparison to others but it has improved massively in the last six months,especially for classical, and hopefully this improvement will continue.

Interesting comments about the dropouts. I have no problems at all with full fat Tidal via either Meridian Sooloos or Roon into Meridian networked endpoints. It's Rock solid.

Goon525 posted:

Like Pev, I've stuck with it. I find the sound quality pretty good and I'm not suffering drop-outs. Indeed, it's now my main listening source, so I can hear Blackstar and loads of Beatles albums at roughly CD quality. Also like Pev, I'd prefer Qobuz for its better classical range - and access to booklets - but Tidal is nowhere near as bad in this respect as the Fishy one keeps claiming. I'd estimate about 80% as good as Qobuz, which is not good enough but certainly not 'woeful'.

+1, my view is the same. Like it and use it a lot - and a tip: i signed up for Roon as a trial, Roon can then recommend a list of worthy albums to make up one's library which now is part of "My Music" on Tidal, even though i have discontinued Roon

I think I'll stick with Tidal. With streaming I do think the SQ is more than acceptable. Tidal also offer most of my preferred music so I'm happy with it! Oh also the integration with the Naim app is pretty slick! 

Btw my subscription for Tidal HiFi is only $HKD96 roughly 7.40 pounds per month. I saw that some of you are paying 20 pounds? Just curious if there are regional pricing difference and when will Tidal raise the price for HK.

Apart from the total ripoff at 20 quid, this is what's wrong with Tidal!

Nuff said!

Tony2011 posted:

Apart from the total ripoff at 20 quid, this is what's wrong with Tidal!

Nuff said!

If you base you music purchases on the people involved in the "supply chain" I'd suggest you bin your system and find yourself some gregorian chanters 

My attempt at humour aside, I agree that the launch event did little to endear Tidal to people. 

Harty601 posted:

Tony2011 posted:

Apart from the total ripoff at 20 quid, this is what's wrong with Tidal!

Nuff said!

If you base you music purchases on the people involved in the "supply chain" I'd suggest you bin your system and find yourself some gregorian chanters 

My attempt at humour aside, I agree that the launch event did little to endear Tidal to people. 

Hmmm, I absolutely love Gregorian chant. 

You're right: one has got to  have a sense of humour.

 Here is some more.

Ringmaster not  pictured!

Tony2011 posted:

You're right: one has got to  have a sense of humour.

 Here is some more.

Ringmaster not  pictured!

Great shot, I think that moment of madonna demonstrating how "cool" she was by breaking the convention of standing or sitting at a table to sign a contract was a real seminal moment in the history of music for me.

Harty601 posted:

Tony2011 posted:

You're right: one has got to  have a sense of humour.

 Here is some more.

Ringmaster not  pictured!

Great shot, I think that moment of madonna demonstrating how "cool" she was by breaking the convention of standing or sitting at a table to sign a contract was a real seminal moment in the history of music for me.

You need to get out more! 

I've decided to stay with Tidal for the moment and see how things go.  The classical selection really isn't that bad, the main problem being the often abysmal metadata which sometime doesn't even identify a work or composer.  A big plus for me is being able to explore alternative versions of a particular work without having to buy a lot of CDs or downloads.  I usually end up buying the version I couldn't live without.

I mostly listen through Roon, using the optical input to my SU, so dropouts are very rare.  Roon also makes up for some of the metadata issues and greatly improves the search.  Now if I could stream from Roon to the SU...

Tom_W posted:

 

What I'd really like is a lossless Deezer option, but I'd still think £20 a month was to expensive. 

Deezer Elite via Sonos works great and is lossless. I too am puzzled by the accounts of dropouts with Tidal. I've never experienced that with Deezer/Sonos...

I'm sticking with it, at this stage I'm 50/50 between tidal and the nas, when I think about what I used to spend on CD's I think it's good value and I listen to a lot of jazz, I feel the selection is pretty good. 

Enjoying Tidal as one of my streaming source here.. Sounds good usually and enjoy their discovery playlists.. I like streaming on my NDX and use both internet streaming and home UPnP streaming .. Yes the latter ultimately sounds better.. usually.. but have noticed my CD purchase rate has slowed since I have been using Tidal.

Dropped it, I wasn't using it enough to justify £20/month.
Sticking with physical media

Funny streaming like Tidal just isn't on my radar currently at all, tried Spotify a long time ago, I just listen to my library at home and never use Tidal/Qobuz etc, not sure why just doesn't attract me in the slightest, well yet.

Does it suit certain tastes in most peoples opinion, say Classical/Choral music, or is it just having that worldwide jukebox at your finger tips?

Dan43 posted:

Funny streaming like Tidal just isn't on my radar currently at all, tried Spotify a long time ago, I just listen to my library at home and never use Tidal/Qobuz etc, not sure why just doesn't attract me in the slightest, well yet.

Does it suit certain tastes in most peoples opinion, say Classical/Choral music, or is it just having that worldwide jukebox at your finger tips?

 

I'm with you there Dan - no interest in on line streaming services. I've got enough music stored at home and to be honest with used CD prices as low as they are, i just buy what i want, rip then store. £240 a year could be better spent elsewhere. 

One thing i did find useful though when i had Spotify was that it did introduce me to a lot of new artists which i'd probably not have found without it recommending artists based on my listening habits. From what i've read about Roon, this sounds like something i'd find very useful again. 

james n posted:

Dan43 posted:

Funny streaming like Tidal just isn't on my radar currently at all, tried Spotify a long time ago, I just listen to my library at home and never use Tidal/Qobuz etc, not sure why just doesn't attract me in the slightest, well yet.

Does it suit certain tastes in most peoples opinion, say Classical/Choral music, or is it just having that worldwide jukebox at your finger tips?

 

I'm with you there Dan - no interest in on line streaming services. I've got enough music stored at home and to be honest with used CD prices as low as they are, i just buy what i want, rip then store. £240 a year could be better spent elsewhere. 

One thing i did find useful though when i had Spotify was that it did introduce me to a lot of new artists which i'd probably not have found without it recommending artists based on my listening habits.

Maybe that the real attraction is discovering those new artists then through listening habit recommends, I admit I buy CDs at £1 or so each from Amazon and rip at home, the rest is 24bit HDTracks type purchases, with Van Halen 1984 and Pantera Cowboys from Hell being a favourites right now both as 192/24 version.

Perhaps a streaming/download and keep service is brewing in 24bit, that would be good, try out and buy options, maybe???

I never had a dropout and the quality was almost as good as my NAS stuff. They just didn't have the music I like so I could not justify the cost.

My 3-month trial has just run out and I have been debited my first £19.99, so I wait with bated breath for the new firmware update.

Touch wood, I have not suffered with drop outs for weeks now so don't have an issue (now) with that. I can also find the majority of stuff I want to hear so it is great for discovery. Although the SQ is quite good, it doesn't quite match CD rips from my server. So for me the tester will be if the new firmware takes the SQ on a bit more to where I am satisfied and/or Tidal launch the new higher res service that has been hinted at.

At the moment I am content with my growing album playlist of marvellous stuff I have discovered and await the new firmware.

Come on Naim, get yer finger out!

Surely, the newly commissioned drama and comedy TV shows are a good reason to continue subscribing. 

I like Tidal, and gave it another two months beyond the free trial . . . but I found I just wasn't using it enough to justify £20/month. I like the idea of streaming, but the price is too high. At half that or less I would've stuck with it.

I have kept Tidal going for a couple of months after the trial period but not at all sure how long I will continue. Tried paying by PayPal but they still charged me 19.99gbp£. I cannot find an option to pay 6 months or a year in advance with any discount anywhere. I am very fortunate that on a crappy rural broadband connection I have hardly any dropouts ( hope I haven't spoken too soon).

i really enjoy picking up music from forum music room but resent being piped off more than the rest of the world by having to pay in pounds what they get in euros or dollars.

Further to my previous sarcastic comment, I feel Tidal would do well to focus on plugging its catalog gaps before trying to become a hybrid audio/video streaming business.

I've kept it as I've had no problem with drop out and the sound quality is just as good as most CDs, I really don't think that £20 a month is that expensive and have found most music I enjoy and some.... Plus my daughter loves it , put it on her phone and she has all the music she wants at her fingertips, which works out cheaper than me buying  downloads from iTunes 

I pulled the plug on Wednesday just before my next payment was due. I filled in the questionnaire as fully as I could, citing three reasons: 1) drop-outs (I suddenly started to get a lot of these); 2) gaps in the catalogue (although this is largely down the the artists electing not to allow streaming); and, 3) price differential. 

Additionally I thought that for £20 a month I could buy a 180g LP and, given that I've invested quite significant funds in my turntable over the last 9 months with more on the horizon, I really ought to maximise its use.

It seems all the Tidal account details remain live, so I may rejoin some time in the future.