552 DR First Impressions

Posted by: rsch on 09 February 2016

Unpackaging and Swissvaxing

Final installation

Cables run decently behind

 

After the282 departure, i was planning an upgrade to 252 when my dealer offered an ex demo 552

(very scarce opportunity on our shores)

At the beginning it was meant to be a late 2012 unit, but  last week he called me telling .. "I have a surprise for you, I' m packing up the 552 and the psu is already DR ! "

An hour later he popped in at my workplace with the "beast"

Once at home, for a few adverse circumstances on "Une Heure De Tranquillitè" style had the

opportunity to install it only last Sunday, since such  a special event deserve all the time necessary

I began, white gloves on disassembling every Fraim Stack to insert the new boxes.

For the  record the new one i added last December was a bit loose already, despite it was re-tighthned a week later the arrival,  while the old stacks seemed fine.

On the first hour i can't say was  like turning on the light on in a dark room, but something

interesting was already showing.

On the same evening the sound was definetely opening out and yesterday and yesterday night

night even more so.

We have to bear in mind that even the 250 lied unused for 3 months

I played a good variety of records from early medieval to 70's pop rock, neo folk and electronic and

 particulary with most dense & complex music,  the most positive effect i noticed, was  the almost total lack of fatigue.

Despite even at 9/10 'o clock it seems to play quite louder and with bigger scale than before,

i no longer urge to drop the  volume with loud and complex piece of music, the music flows

now naturally and effortlessy and probably there is still room for improvement with a proper

run in and warm up since i' ve been told that it saw very little use.

At the same time i' m also praising the effect of my trusty Nait XS within its obvious limits 

it's not ashamed in this company

Regards

Roberto

Posted on: 21 March 2016 by Massimo Bertola

Ken,

it's funny: for some, Naim is proverbially overpriced, but if I look at the type of audio some others buy, Naim seem exceptional value for money. All audio is probably overpriced. I too hope that Naim will stay true to quality values.

In Torino I had a couple of friends who ran an audio store. One was an electronic engineer, a competent and intellectually honest man, enthusiastic about his chance to sell things in which he believed and that he was able to check, value, repair. The other joined from another store, and was a pure seller: kind, patient, serene, he said (not publicly) that the customer must be told what he expects to be told, then you sell whatever you want to sell.

Partner A started, in time, to be critical to whatever didn't meet his requirements based on deep knowledge; he refused a number of brands on the grounds of their being technologically inadequate and over priced; he despised tube technology as obsolete, and told everyone exactly what he thought, trying to make a customer buy whatever he thought was the most cost effective product. Partner B tried to be elastic, you never knew what he was really thinking.

Partner A was interested in music, read books, tried to understand what music really is, had a wonderful collection of CDs and we discussed interpreters, composers, compositions; he had a sharp mind, and a sharp sense of humour. Partner B was interested in nothing; he didn't read books and the only time I saw his eyes shining in excitement was when he explained me that the Tour Eiffel is just bolted, without soldering or whatever.

When business started to decline, partner B left and went to work with his former employer, an old, successful audio store, the type you hear stories about used gear sold as new, a respectable firm with a steady portfolio of faithful customers in the range of notaries, lawyers, soccer players, always happy to spend a few more than the retail price to have luxury gear to show to friends; he's till working there. Partner B had to close, and retire. He's still reading books, though, and learning new things that will never be useful to him. (He loved Focal, though, when it still was called JMLab and sold in department stores.)

M

Posted on: 21 March 2016 by Simon-in-Suffolk

I really would let RSCH sort his room reflections/speaker room coupling  out before he throws more money at electronics.. electronics in the way of amps can't and won't fix this, at best it will slightly disguise or mask.. but you will be running below par.. possibly well below par.

i suspect once the reflections are sorted, his system will sound very rewarding with his current electronics... Room condition/speaker room coupling and managing reflections / resonances  outclasses all other upgrades by a country mile. When I once put two acoustic panels in my listening room it felt like I had upgraded my preamp.. the increased detail, flow and space around the sounds   as well as improved subtle dynamics and more natural vocal presentations made me smile.

vocals are a good test, as our brain is onbviously sensitised to them, and they are made up of a cascade of modulated filtered frequencies around the mid frequencies.. the danger zone for many room reflections.  If you have a dry recording (no processing or reverb) of vocals, you can tune your system and room to the point it sounds like that voice is virtually indistguisable  from other real voices in your room when you shut your eyes.

Simon

Posted on: 21 March 2016 by Christopher_M

Slightly similarly to Simon, I'd wondered if the system would sound better with the speakers firing towards the window.

Chris

Posted on: 21 March 2016 by ken c

Massimo,

I knew a dealer with a similar profile to your "A". A really genuine music enthusiast.  Naim dealership in Tottenham Ct Rd in Central London (NOT HiFi Experience!). One day, i just passed by after buying some vinyl from the (then) Virgin record shop -- a mixture of Jimi Hendrix, Jethro Tull, Joe Cocker etc... and some Mali music. He wanted to play them all -- the system had Rega Kytes as i recall --- and 52/250. I entered the shop around mid 1500hrs -- only wanted to say Hi on my way home -- left the shop well after closing @1800hrs!

Unfortunately, he shut up shop eventually. I sense that is what happens to really good dealers who are genuinely interested in their customers and music and not just 'profit'.  

I guess that is 'reality'. This world is a cruel place. 

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 21 March 2016 by nigelb

All the Naim dealers I have experience of seem to be able to combine that genuine approach (including a great appreciation for music) with the necessary commercial acumen to stay in business and indeed thrive. I have always believed if you genuinely have the customer's best interests at heart and you are selling great products, you will survive, mainly through long-term customer loyalty this approach inevitably fosters. Endlessly trying to flog the newest shiney things to a stream of new customers is exhausting and eventually you will exhaust your supply of new customers particularly in niche markets like so-called up-market hifi. However, In these hard economic times even the best dealers must keep a keen eye on the bottom line, resist discounting and fiercely control their costs. Bit like any business you care to mention I guess.

Sorry for the diversion.

Posted on: 21 March 2016 by Christopher_M

Has today's speaker dem crystallised any new amplifier thoughts, Roberto?

Best, Chris

Posted on: 22 March 2016 by rsch
imaginator posted:

Hi Roberto, I'm Alessandro ( i'm italian) .. Yesterday You asked me something about the preamplifier and the my demo  nap 300 DR in an another thread

Is it possible contact you via  private e-mail just for some curiosity?

I hope I'm not violating the forum rules.

Regards

Alessandro

 

 

Hi Alessandro,

Of course you' re welcome if you wanna get in touch with me.

Regards

Roberto

Posted on: 22 March 2016 by rsch

Here we are,

I'm back from the Ovator demo of which i 'll comment on the other post.

R.

Posted on: 22 March 2016 by imaginator
rsch posted:
imaginator posted:

Hi Roberto, I'm Alessandro ( i'm italian) .. Yesterday You asked me something about the preamplifier and the my demo  nap 300 DR in an another thread

Is it possible contact you via  private e-mail just for some curiosity?

I hope I'm not violating the forum rules.

Regards

Alessandro

 

 

Hi Alessandro,

Of course you' re welcome if you wanna get in touch with me.

Regards

Roberto

Sorry Roberto, but I have no an email contact of you.

Regards

Alessandro

Posted on: 25 March 2016 by Iron Cobra

552 first impressions

I have on loan with a view to buying my dealers dem 552 (not DR).

Burndy is shorter than the 252 makes dressing easier.

From cold, the first track  WOW. For 13 years I have always resisted hearing the 552 because it was out of my range financially. When my dealer said he was selling their 552 at a price I could not refuse, we arranged a home dem. I don't think he will be getting it back until I do the DR upgrade, it's staying