I'm confused

Posted by: 56wilson on 10 February 2016

I took a change without auditioned first. Sold my XS and bought a second hand XS 2 (1,5 years old)

To my huge surprise the XS 2 is way more laid back, the bass is weaker, not as much punch, smaller soundstage, less detailed and the PR&T is almost gone. Also I have to crank the volume knob higher up to get the same amount of volume. 

The XS 2 doesn't sounds broken or bad. But it doesn't sound as naim at all. It sounds borring and it's not on par in any way with my old XS. 

But this shouldn't be the case. The XS 2 should be better than my old XS. I'm totally confused. 

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by Stephen Tate

Hi,

Have you changed anything else in the system apart from the amp?

Is it the same on all sources?

You could try switching the whole system down for ten minutes, unplug all connections including the blank plug on the back of the amp and re-connect?

Worth a try, sometimes it (remedy) can be just down to cleaning all the contacts throughout the system by un-connecting & re-connecting all the contact points.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by 56wilson
Cables and sources all the same. I will try to reconnect cables.

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Posted on: 10 February 2016 by hungryhalibut

How long has it been switched on?

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by 56wilson

Only about 36 hours. But my XS always sound pretty good even after disconnection. 

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by hungryhalibut

In that case it should be fine. Can you check that you've not wired your speakers out of phase - the symptoms sound rather as though you may have done. 

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by 56wilson

I haven't. 

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by hungryhalibut

In which case, it sounds as though you prefer the original XS...

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by Mayor West

I've heard a few people say they preferred the XS1 to XS2. 

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by J.N.

It's a funny old lark Mr Wilson. I changed my XS1 for a '2' - the latter sounding obviously better from the first note for me. But ........... that doesn't mean that it's better for you. Maybe your '1' simply gelled better with what you have, your ear 'oles, music and room acoustics.

Clearly you should compare it to another '2' at your dealership to check that it's doing what it says on the tin. We read tales hereabouts of sample variations.

Good luck.

John.

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by gary yeowell

As John says above, a funny old game. I much prefer the original XS over the XS2 (70w) myself. As always, trust your ears and take no notice of what others say, it's your system, your money and your choice.

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by badlands

It was the same story with the Nait 3-3R. It also had a more immediate, in your face sound than the original Nait 5.  The Nait 5 also had more watts per channel with an increase by 20 watts instead of the 10 watts in your case.

It's not the first time Naim has introduced a so called improved product that didn't quite improve on the previous model in the opinion of some of the consumers. 

For me personally the best sounding Nait was the Nait2.  

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by Evil Weasel

From the couple of brief listens to newest xs2, I agree with your findings. For me the xs1 sounds more alive and interesting, especially so adding fc2x

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by Christopher_M

I can feel your disappointment.

It crosses my mind that the XS2 may be voiced for the ND5 XS, not your CD5 XS. Even if true, it's no consolation.

Chris

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by 56wilson

I tried the advice from stephen tate, switching the whole system down for about ten minutes an un-connecting and re-connecting all the contact points. Well I difinitely think the system improved quite a bit. And after about 5 hours of intense listening the XS 2 now sounds better and better. Fatter sound, more volume and with tighter and more bass. The sound is not as laid back as before. Although still more laid back than the XS (espacially voices). But one thing the XS 2 seems to do better than the XS are female voices, that sometimes was to sharp on the XS. These sharp notes are now almost gone on the XS 2. 

I think a flatcap would do wonders with the XS 2. I previously tried flatcap with my XS but it sounded to forward and in your face for my taste so I got rid of it again. But the in my opinion more laid back nature of the XS 2 I think the flatcap would be a great fit. And also improving the Pr&T. 

 

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Now - I know my advice will sound like a bit of voodoo magic, but worth a try...

Repeat the pluggin and unplugging, switching the power sockets on and off around 20 times in succession. Also disconnect all your power cords and interconnects, lay them flat on the flor and gently straighten them out, thus de-stressing them. When you connect the cables again, make sure there is no tension in them.

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by Christopher_M
Adam Zielinski posted:

disconnect all your power cords and interconnects, lay them flat on the flor and gently straighten them out, thus de-stressing them.

Then get your partner to do the same to you. Works every time.

C

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Absolutely!

Posted on: 10 February 2016 by TOBYJUG

What power cables are you using on the nd and xs2 ? Since you have a lot of Chord cables from looking at your profile - you would be good to run the 16amp Chord power jobby.

should put some synergy behind everything.