quality ethernet cable?

Posted by: ridds on 13 June 2011

Hi to all at the forum. I am trying to set my new uniti up & was just wandering if the quality of ethernet cables matter at all when i purchase one to go direct to my nas drive?.   Any replys would be very helpfull.cheers.

Posted on: 01 July 2011 by Noogle
Originally Posted by Noogle:

He gave an invited talk at a company I once worked for.  Mad as a box of frogs.

 

Just read some of Peter's site and literally choked with laughter:

 


The Leaf Green Cream
Whilst personally struggling with the advances of the range of ‘Digi’ Devices, and the spectacular USB
Devices, low and behold, PWB  sneak another new product under the radar, and it is an amazing advance;
again!
This time we have a further evolution of a catalogue classic, the Morphic Green Cream. This new, rush
released product has clearly been in development for some considerable time, but accompanying
literature is scarce. What has been suggested in personal communications is that the product captures
something of the superior response to sunlight that trees have acquired through evolution, and in the usual
manner, this ‘pattern’ can be usefully passed on to most objects through applying a trace of the Leaf
Green Cream to them. I suspect that the previous Morphic Green Cream must have had some similar
underlying principle, but this takes it to the next level, and how.
In addition to the Cream, there are two associated products, again of a familiar format.  Firstly, rather like
their Gold forebears, we have some Orange Squares that can be fitted to anything, with Leaf Green Cream
applied to their upper surface once they are in place. Secondly, a new ‘Foil’ (actually, like the Orange
Square,) a film) which is a dark Red/Pink in colour, that can be similarly applied to any surface. As far as
I know there is no place you could not usefully apply these products, with the issues of space and cost
being the only barriers to extensive use of them. Excitingly, you can apply Leaf Green Cream to all of the
Message Foils, and I have, to date, only excluded Retro and Memory Foils, since they have had their own
Creams to activate them
Posted on: 01 July 2011 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Noogie, the RF interference I refer to does not corrupt the data. It travels or flows along the conductors connecting our sensitive audio equipment. The RF can cause intermodulation distortion in the analogue electronics. Because the RF is far higher than the circuits or components are designed for,  distortion is caused. This causes a a series of frequencies which are sums and differences between radio frequencies in the interference. It's some of these sum and difference frequencies we hear and the distortion the produce. This can make audio equipment sound harsh, or even rob it life and sound coveresely flat as low level energy is lost.
Posted on: 02 July 2011 by Aron
Other than trying on Ethernet cable, would fitting on to din cables help too?
Posted on: 02 July 2011 by garyi
Haha go for it. Get into the loft and but some round your lighting wire too, fill your boots
Posted on: 02 July 2011 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Aron, possibly, but I have not tried it, (I instead use RF low pass filters on my interconnects between digital source and preamp, but that is complete separate story). I would focus initially on the sources of conducted RFI which is from Ethernet devices, devices with cheap SMPS  and the mains first.

Simon
Posted on: 02 July 2011 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Gary,  what are you going on about????
Simon
Posted on: 02 July 2011 by garyi
What i am saying is unless you move to an field in the middle of nowhere, with no electric your are pissing against the wind. I have around 20 metres of ethernet cable in my wall before the box, before the computer, what should i do with this.
Posted on: 02 July 2011 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Fine, but that is not what we are talking about surely. I was referring adding inductance near to where RFI carrying conductors connect with the sensitive audio equipment. The inductance impedes the RF current that might be being  conducted on the shield or in common mode for twisted pairs. It is not referring to field strength in the air, which requires different techniques and is significantly weaker. it is addressing the conducted AC current that are at radio frequencies.
Most domestic electronic items just don't care about this, as they are not sensitive enough, but our Naim equipment absolutely is sensitive enough, which is why it sounds so good and natural.
If an engineer were to put  a  oscilloscope across a typical domestic mains, get it to trigger  and zoom right in on the y axis you will see a fine hash on the voltage trace - it is this sort of RF I am  talking about.
Simon
Posted on: 02 July 2011 by garyi

By this thinking then I presume every wire in your hifi has ferrite clamps?

Posted on: 02 July 2011 by Harry

My Audioquest snake cable arrived this morning. Over the course of the week end I will be able to evaluate my insight or stupidity as the case may be. I've also ordered ten chokes. Repeat previous sentence. It's harmless.

 

Wiggling the HDX about to get the cable in the back I heard that little sound that all Fraim owners fear as a ball bearing made a dash for freedom. Retrieved and installed. Lining that up took longer than the cabling so it seems that Sod's law is correctly operating in my house today.

Posted on: 02 July 2011 by Simon-in-Suffolk

Gary

 

> By this thinking then I presume every wire in your hifi has ferrite clamps?

 

No as I said earlier on, only where I can hear a difference, if there is no difference I don't bother - no fuss and all straightforward

 

Cheers

Simon

 

Posted on: 03 July 2011 by Harry

The Audioquest cable verdict is in - for my set up.

 

The results are clear and obvious.

 

There is no change.