Speakers choice for 282/SCDR/250DR

Posted by: Adam Zielinski on 14 March 2016

Hi guys.

Trying to come up with a short-list of decent speakers for my living room (40 sqm).

System: 282/SCDR/250DR. Sources: NDX / Sondek LP12.
Cables: HiLine Din-Din, SuperLumina speaker cable, PowerLines.

In order to get the speakers past the Government Approval they must come in Piano Black.

Budget: GBP 12,000 / EUR 15,000 (thereabout).

Any suggestions?

Posted on: 25 March 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Well - Rega has just relased a new MC cartridge. Approximately Eur 3k more than the Apheta2. 

And cleverly they offer a soft upgrade - if one purchases RP10 with Apheta, they will swap to a new Aphelion within 1 month of purchase, at a discounted price

Posted on: 25 March 2016 by The Strat (Fender)

When I purchased the Xerxes I had a RP9 on demo but could never quite make my mind up about it it just didn't convince like the Xerxes or Avid Volvere. 

But briefly heard a a RP10 - a completely different proposition. Far bigger sound, gorgeous bass. 

Posted on: 20 May 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Just a short update on my 'speakers' project.

NDX swapped for NDS.
So much for new speakers

And those Monitor Audio GX300 continue to deliver - amazing....
Adam

PS. Huge thanks to NigelB for showing me a true path to enlightenment

Posted on: 20 May 2016 by The Strat (Fender)

Well any number of ways to nirvana (or not!) but Adam - still wish you'd tried Net XL6s or Sopra 2s!!!!

Posted on: 20 May 2016 by The Strat (Fender)

That said of course NDS broadly = CDS3 and when I bought the latter...............................

Posted on: 20 May 2016 by nigelb
Adam Zielinski posted:

Just a short update on my 'speakers' project.

NDX swapped for NDS.
So much for new speakers

And those Monitor Audio GX300 continue to deliver - amazing....
Adam

PS. Huge thanks to NigelB for showing me a true path to enlightenment

You are welcome Grasshopper. Now go forth and do good.

Posted on: 20 May 2016 by Adam Zielinski
The Strat (Fender) posted:

Well any number of ways to nirvana (or not!) but Adam - still wish you'd tried Net XL6s or Sopra 2s!!!!

That's still on the cards - probably in the 2nd half of this year. My internal CFO got exhaused with all the upgrades I put her through this year

Posted on: 20 May 2016 by demogoblin

I am using a similar system. Currently running it with a Dynaudio Focus 160. It matches the set up quite well.

Posted on: 20 May 2016 by Philim

There are some very nice ex demo xl10s in gloss white on offer from a dealer for £12k.

Posted on: 24 May 2016 by David02
Adam Zielinski posted:

Thanks guys for the various suggestions. The list is actually quite short, but interesting nevertheless:

  • Neat Ultimatum XL6
  • Focal Sopra 2
  • PMC Fact 8 or Twenty 26
  • Dynaudio Focus
  • B&W 804

 

My next step is to test two power supplies on the NDX (XPS and 555 are heading my way for an extended home demo).
As NigelB wrote above - my current speakers (Monitor Audio GX300) may actually see me progress with my gear, before I need to change them.
Let's see

One mustn't forget the most important thing though - as long as it sounds enjoyable, that's what is most important.

don't buy the most expensive speakers.

Buy the cheapest of the list + 300 CD's for the same price!

 

Posted on: 24 May 2016 by Innocent Bystander

Buy the best sounding, regardless of price and looks.

Can you even find 300 CDs to buy (I don't think I could)

Posted on: 24 May 2016 by David02
Innocent Bystander posted:

Buy the best sounding, regardless of price and looks.

Can you even find 300 CDs to buy (I don't think I could)

@ Innocent Bystander:

I think those are all very good speakers. At one point, you have to stop to listen to a speaker and start to listen to music!

(I have to admit, 300 CD's is a LOT! )

Posted on: 24 May 2016 by Adam Zielinski

I like those 300 CDs.... Imagine this one.... Don't buy any new speakers and get even more music )))

This NDS thing is amazing.... I never realised digital can sound sooooo goooood....

Posted on: 24 May 2016 by nigelb

I understand the buying music vs buying gear debate and there are times when buying music is the right choice. I will add just one caveat though. There are some rather old CD's that I used to like (but not love) and haven't played for years. I now play some of that well worn stuff on my very transparent system (built over the intervening years) and it sounds absolutely brilliant. So much more music, so much more meaning, so much more enjoyment from music I have always had.

Music or kit, it's often a tricky one.

Posted on: 24 May 2016 by ChrisSU
nigelb posted:

I understand the buying music vs buying gear debate and there are times when buying music is the right choice. I will add just one caveat though. There are some rather old CD's that I used to like (but not love) and haven't played for years. I now play some of that well worn stuff on my very transparent system (built over the intervening years) and it sounds absolutely brilliant. So much more music, so much more meaning, so much more enjoyment from music I have always had.

Music or kit, it's often a tricky one.

That's a very good point. After an upgrade, it's always good to revisit old favourites, and equally, to dig out neglected albums and find things you like about them that were not really evident in a less revealing system. I'd also add that a new format can rekindle an interest in music. Streaming does that simply by making the whole of your collection so (and everything else via the web) so accessible, and vinyl, CD etc can do it simply by presenting the same track in a different way.

...all of which has nothing at all to do with speaker choice, so I'll shut up now!

Posted on: 24 May 2016 by dayjay
nigelb posted:

I understand the buying music vs buying gear debate and there are times when buying music is the right choice. I will add just one caveat though. There are some rather old CD's that I used to like (but not love) and haven't played for years. I now play some of that well worn stuff on my very transparent system (built over the intervening years) and it sounds absolutely brilliant. So much more music, so much more meaning, so much more enjoyment from music I have always had.

Music or kit, it's often a tricky one.

Agreed, everytime you make a major upgrade it is like rediscovering your music library all over again, which is a joy.  Plus, not everyone is interested in new music, there are plenty around who have forty years of music they love to work through and making it sound better is why we got iinto the hobby in the first place, surely?