NDS - which interconnect?
Posted by: oldneil on 17 March 2016
Hi, just wandering which IC you are using between NDS and the pre amp?
I am using a Hiline at the moment on my 2 weeks old NDS, but is it really a big step soundwise going up to Sarum or SL?
Have a go with the search function Neil loads of stuff been written on this. I use a hi-line on my CDS3 and have tried a Sarum TA but went back to the hi-line after an extended trial - just seemed more natural/neutral. Haven't tried a SL on my system but from other demos it clearly delivers more - you'd really need to have a home trial.
However, I would wait until te NDS has fully run-in (say 3 months) so you know you're not experiencing changes in the performance of the NDS itself.
Regards,
Lindsay
3 months run-in? Mine already sounds so good that I've put my CDS3 on the loft!
Replacing my Hi-Line with SL was far and away, pound for pound, the best upgrade I have ever made. Strongly recommended. Your dealer may well loan you one to try because once you have it I promise you won't hand it back!
I have a Sarum TA from my NDS to 252 - previously Hiline. This was in the days when SL was a mere twinkle in the eyes of Naim so I have been meaning to get a loan SL IC and compare it to my Sarum TA. BTW I now have SL speaker cables so there is now a stronger argument to hear the SL IC as it would be a move towards a full SL loom for me. Would be interested to hear if anyone has already done this comparison (Sarum TA IC vs SL IC) using NDS.
I don't mean to hijack your thread but I hope you would be interested in this too.
I demo'd Sarum TA, SL, and AR's new Lunar on my NDS -> 552. Didn't like what the Sarum did (less clarity, slightly "darker" sound). Small pref for SL on most tracks (but not all) but £ for £ the AR cable won out.
I run a SuperSarum phono to DIN betwixt my Chord qbd76hdsd DAC & 552. Having learned of others' positive experiences with SL, I borrowed one from my dealer for a long home trial. Although it was more detailed than the Chord cable it lost all the musical drive. This may be because it wasn't in an all-Naim system so best to try it yourself. I confess the experience has rather put me off the SL cables, good timing being something I'm particularly sensitive to.
I can't comment on the NDS connection, but I have auditioned the Sarum TA and SL IC between my 552 and CDX2.2/nDAC. I found the Sarum cable rather heavy and unwieldy. I seem to remember some reports of broken plug/cable connections. The Hiline has similar issues as I well know. To my mind the SL IC bests the HiLine and Sarum TA by some margin. Wider,deeper soundstage, greater detail and clarity. I also have the SL speaker cables which gave a noticeable improvement, for me, over the NACA 5. If you're ever in the position to audition the SL speaker cables I can recommend an audition. If you can't afford both why not try auditioning them both and see what you think.
Nds - 7000
SL Din - 1700
SL XLR - 1500
SL 5M - 3000
Almost a 1:1 Ratio
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Allante93!
Good point there, Allante93! It's a possibility for an expensive ride in the future. ![]()
I use the SL between my NDS and 552. All the other cables are SL too. I used to have a hiline and found the SL to be a big upgrade. Far more open and transparent.
I can't offer an opinion ...yet. I've been using Super Lumia, BUT after hearing what Chord STA did at the Acoustica show, I called in to the shop on the saturday and borrowed an STA to try out. Thing is, it was almost new, so it's been playing to itself for the last few days (24hrs/day) in order to put the 100 hours that Chord suggested on the cable before I swap back to the S/L and start to listen seriously.
I'll be back.... ![]()
Chord Music is the best of the best for the NDS. It has to be experienced to be belived.
I thought it was a matter of taste between SL STA. Upgrading STA to SSA was a step up, Music is from an other planet. Literally.
I do think Martin Colloms had a valid point when he reviewed Statement.
//Jonas
SL was a big step up from Hiline for me. But you don't need to take anybody else's word for it. It shouldn't be difficult to borrow one.
I'd like to suggest you get one of each.
The improvement to be had from moving from a hi-line to an SL on the NDS is amazing and has to be heard to be believed. Our NDS already had a 555dr and powerline and yet the SL just opened up whole new areas of hitherto unheard delights. Pound for pound a very worthwhile upgrade.
Yup, SL,is the way to go IMO..
You should try the new Chord Music ![]()
Tellurium q - black diamond or silver Diamond Is a real contender
I moved to Naim to get off the cable upgrade merry go round. I already have Powerlines and HiLines all around. Please make it stop.
Replace Hi Line with SL. That will stop it!
Skip posted:I moved to Naim to get off the cable upgrade merry go round. I already have Powerlines and HiLines all around. Please make it stop.
Easy - not compulsory. Stick with the standard supplied leads and it's all good!
The Strat (Fender) posted:Skip posted:I moved to Naim to get off the cable upgrade merry go round. I already have Powerlines and HiLines all around. Please make it stop.
Easy - not compulsory. Stick with the standard supplied leads and it's all good!
Stop it Strat, you're making to much cents! LOL
BTW, it really is all good!
Cdx2 - 282 - HCDR - 3 x 250.2 - Fraimlite -Std. Naim IC - K-20 - Passive Tri Amped Briks!
Allante93!
How have any of you who have heard a closely matched comparison between the Sarum TA and the Sarum Super TA experienced the differences in the sound quality? In particular, I am hoping the Super Sarum TA will be more full bodied and harmonically rich, which isn't really the strong suit of the Sarum TA cable, at least as I am using it on my NAT 01 FM tuner.
Thanks,
Bruce
It's interesting how different everyone's experiences are with the Sarum TA interconnect. Even the standard version in my system sounded very rich, smooth and detailed. I subsequently had one of my STAs "Supered" & the differences were subtle, just a tad more in the way of bass control and a more open sound.
I have the same experience as Tony with Sarum. Now, Music is another beast....
//Jonas