naim 5si or naim xs

Posted by: hancoock2367 on 25 March 2016

Hello, My system hifi is Naim nait 5si kef Ls50 audiolab mdac nac a5.

I am very pleased with how it sounds.
I found a good opportunity for a naim xs no xs2.

the difference if I sell the naim nait 5si and buy 5 xs is little. 

there is much difference in sound between the two?

thanks 

Posted on: 25 March 2016 by b_lund

Yes there is diff but IMO you gain more changing to a better DAC

You will loose £££ on your Si purchase as this must be rather new

Posted on: 25 March 2016 by dayjay

+1, source first 

Posted on: 25 March 2016 by hancoock2367

which dac for example

Posted on: 25 March 2016 by dayjay

What is your budget?

Posted on: 25 March 2016 by hancoock2367

1000 €

Posted on: 25 March 2016 by Clay Bingham

Others will disagree, but I have always thought the XS Naits as price step engineered Naits giving one a bit more refinement at the cost of musical verve when compared to a basic Nait 5 series. That may have made some sense when compared to the original Supernait which was a real snooze absent a HiCap but money  can be better spent elsewhere, on sources for example, as noted above. Then, if you must, save for a Supernait 2

I have run my CDS3/XPS2 through my plain jane Nait 5i into Allaes and nSats and the Nait sounds great punching way above its weight.

Posted on: 25 March 2016 by George F

Agreed

Posted on: 25 March 2016 by Pyrrhon

I'm in doubt with the 5si. I sold mine and saw a lot for sale on used market for the last year. I think It can be a bit too raw and edgy in the long run. The xs gives you a bit rounder sound and the important capacity to use flat caps later on. I think it's a good plan to upgrade. It should remove some edges and sound more controlled. Personally I'd do it. 

Posted on: 27 March 2016 by hancoock2367

I just took the gustard x20  dac DSD 

GUSTARD Costa de DAC-X20 double ES9018 XMOS program supports DSD DOP 384K

Posted on: 27 March 2016 by Iconoclast
Pyrrhon posted:

I'm in doubt with the 5si. I sold mine and saw a lot for sale on used market for the last year. I think It can be a bit too raw and edgy in the long run. The xs gives you a bit rounder sound and the important capacity to use flat caps later on. I think it's a good plan to upgrade. It should remove some edges and sound more controlled. Personally I'd do it. 

I agree.

At first the 5si will impress with its relentless drive but, in the long run, you may find yourself not enjoying a fair percentage of your music collection.

When matched with the right source/speakers the XS2 should give you a better balance and make a wider variety of recordings palatable.

Think of it as a racing bike vs a hybrid. Unless you plan on cycling on perfect roads all the time you're probably better off with a good hybrid.

Posted on: 27 March 2016 by Boaz

IMHO You have to try for yourself - As Hard as I tried I couldn't spot the difference between the Two.  

Posted on: 27 March 2016 by Stoik
hancoock2367 posted:

I just took the gustard x20  dac DSD 

GUSTARD Costa de DAC-X20 double ES9018 XMOS program supports DSD DOP 384K

A very nice upgrade over your Audiolab, congrats!

One of the nicest feature of the ESS Sabre chips is the quality of their digital volume control, so you may try the X20 in preamp mode and use the Nait 5si as a power amp only (via the AV Bypass mode).

Bye.