Naim nac n272

rjstaines posted:

Olek_K posted:

why would I spend additional thousands  for a Unitiserve when I have a fine cd and 100's of cds?

My parents used to as "Why would we want a colour TV, we have a perfectly good (black&white) one now?"

It's not really fair to draw such conlusions. There is substantial difference between color and B&W tv whereas CDs vs ripped CDs sound the same (almost for sure). And I don't need to waste my time for actual process of ripping

You can run Minimserver on Mac OSX. Minim is one of the best bits of server software, and if you get used to it on the Mac you could later use it on a nas. If you go the the Minimserver website you'll find full instructions. You then just load the Naim app on your iPhone or iPad and off you go. You should be up and running within half an hour if you follow the instructions to the letter. 

Rjt36 posted:

Thanks again, everyone.

It seems as if there are too many options open to me - when I've only been used to a cd spinner! Is there anywhere that I can go to to find out how to set up a nas or indeed Mac mini as an alternative? 

What I now may have gleaned is that if I've already got an iMac that has CDs ripped on it for mobile audio (many ripped as lossless), can I download a program to stream from that - at least initially, until I've worked out what I need to do next on this journey!

So sorry for the rather basic questions!

When I set my Mac Mini up to act as a NAS when I still had a Naim streamer (ND5XS), I ran Serviio (a uPnP player) to enable it to serve on network. To the best of my recollection there was no setting up to do, and it worked perfectly from the Naim app controller - and its free! I'm sure that will work on the iMac.

Olek_K posted:

why would I spend additional thousands  for a Unitiserve when I have a fine cd and 100's of cds?

My answer was in the post just before the TV jibe...

Serviio is pretty good for a free app, I use it to stream video.  The best I have used, and I tried a lot, was Asset but that was on the PC.  Well worth the price and better even than Serviio.  Any of them will allow a Naim streamer to operate via the Naim app although some provide the data more reliably or with more control

rjstaines posted:

Olek_K posted:

why would I spend additional thousands  for a Unitiserve when I have a fine cd and 100's of cds?

My parents used to as "Why would we want a colour TV, we have a perfectly good (black&white) one now?"

Didn't people say the same thing about vinyl? Hmm, I wonder what happened to vinyl?

Convenience is one thing, audio quality is another.

You are not comparing a recent production CD player to a black and white TV are you? It's a silly comparison, in my opinion recent CD players are at the very least the equal sonically to any format available today and superior to many. Especially players from Naim and Cyrus.

Vinyl virtually died and even with its 'huge' upturn it remains a tiny niche product in the scheme of things.  Black and white TV compared to colour isn't a valid comparison but neither would it be valid to suggest that streaming, at the right levels, is only about convenience, otherwise I suspect Naim would be demoing their Statement amp with a Naim CD player and not a Naim streamer - you don't need convenience to show off your state of the art system

Thanks again. So, I've been doing my research on a suitable nas for my 272. Would any of you be able to comment on the suitability of a Synology DS216j (2x2 tb) Wd red. Is this a relatively user friendly first Nas or is there something else I should consider? Thank you.

Harty601 posted:

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

Pcd posted:

Once you start using a Naim streamer and NAS a CD player just gathers dust!!

Totally disagree if you have certain Naim CD players. There is something about a CDX2 that has me reaching for it as my goto player sometimes... I listen to most of my music streaming and FM radio... but my CDX2 deals with heavy rock and blues superbly - yes not perhaps the most accurate or insightful - but boy its fun... and music replay is about being enjoyable isn't it - not being a science test bench..

Choosing the right source type for the right master can be worthwhile - its certainly not in my recent experiences a case of one size fits all - you would be missing out on so much and after all that is why we have those input selectors on our Naim preamps.

Simon

 

 

I think the beauty of our little hobby / passion / illness (as some might see it) is that we all have different ears, perceptions, preference of how re listen to music, budgets, partner input, space and many other factors. I had 8 years enjoyment from my CDX 2 and was somewhat nervous when I made the decision to chop it in and go for a streaming option. All Naim sources have their own distinct characteristics and the bare CDX2 has some that divide opinion (I loved the bare CDX2). However, for me, the convenience of being able to put all my CDs away in the loft (once I'd ripped them) and having instant access to my music was a big factor in the decision. As it happens, I think the 272 is a great allrounder in the way it produces music - doing a great job of everything from jazz to prog rock!! Over all I feel it has a more "natural" sound than that of the CDX2 (at least hooked up in my room to my SN1+HC).

I appreciate I may be putting convenience over sound quality, but all I can say is that I am listening to more music now than I ever have done in my life - which must be the ultimate test of how one feels about their hi-fi. I like the ability to build playlists but I appreciate to some - desecrating the running order of an album is sacrilege - but again, we're all different and look for different things from our kit. FWIW I also have a Gyrodec, which has had very little air time since owning the 272. (I know this is a bone of contention with some members) but I find a well recorded / mastered / engineered/ produced/ etc / etc /etc "Hi res" file is as good (if not better in some instances) than it's vinyl counterpart, with the added bonus of missing the pops and clicks. For the avoidance of doubt I'm also well aware that there are some god awful "hi res" files out there in the same way that there are god awful CD, SACD and vinyl. <I'm now packing my bags and have booked a one way ticket to Coventry> 

+1 I`ll get my coat.....

rjstaines posted:

Olek_K posted:

why would I spend additional thousands  for a Unitiserve when I have a fine cd and 100's of cds?

My parents used to as "Why would we want a colour TV, we have a perfectly good (black&white) one now?"

As my grandfather used to say: "Why would women need to vote? There are plenty of men who can vote"

Bert posted:

rjstaines posted:

Olek_K posted:

why would I spend additional thousands  for a Unitiserve when I have a fine cd and 100's of cds?

My parents used to as "Why would we want a colour TV, we have a perfectly good (black&white) one now?"

As my grandfather used to say: "Why would women need to vote? There are plenty of men who can vote"

Your gramdfather was a very astute man, Bert.   Giving women the vote was the start of the downfall of the Empire...  

...and look where it's got us now - SWMBO actually has an opinion  about which speakers I should buy and how many black boxes is too many !