Synchronicity and the Wife

Is this another of those 'silly woman' threads? If so, let's stop here. 

If I do anything and then say that I should have done something else - which I do too all too frequently and which is an ultimately pointless exercise - she just says 'should've, could've, would've' and I realise there is no point going back over decisions made. 

Hi Paul -

Not everyone realizes that syncing iRadio across two network players isn't the same as tuning in to the same radio station on two radios.   You could demonstrate why it's "not that simple" by first playing the same iRadio station on both units, and pointing out the echo-y effect of the slight offset, then switching to multi-room mode to show how it now works "just like ordinary broadcast radio".  A simple demo to illustrate might go a long way to including your partner in your delight. 

Regards alan

alan33 posted:

Hi Paul -

Not everyone realizes that syncing iRadio across two network players isn't the same as tuning in to the same radio station on two radios.   You could demonstrate why it's "not that simple" by first playing the same iRadio station on both units, and pointing out the echo-y effect of the slight offset, then switching to multi-room mode to show how it now works "just like ordinary broadcast radio".  A simple demo to illustrate might go a long way to including your partner in your delight. 

Regards alan

A very dangerous approach to marital harmony, in my experience 

PBenny1066 posted:

Bought a Mu-so Qb a few days ago, and after a couple of hours faffing around to get it to join the wifi, I was in awe at the multi-room feature, streaming iRadio, with a full-fat Muso in the other room. Radio in 2 rooms in perfect synchrony.

At which point my wife says "wouldn't it be easier to just buy 2 radios......? "

How to respond ? Looking forward to the collective wisdom of the forum.

I suppose the obvious, if dangerously condescending response would be that they are 2 radios - just internet radios....but then, she probably means FM radios. So of course, she is right. You could, though, turn this to your advantage by buying that NAT01 you've always dreamt of.  

alan33 posted:

Hi Paul -

Not everyone realizes that syncing iRadio across two network players isn't the same as tuning in to the same radio station on two radios.   You could demonstrate why it's "not that simple" by first playing the same iRadio station on both units, and pointing out the echo-y effect of the slight offset, then switching to multi-room mode to show how it now works "just like ordinary broadcast radio".  A simple demo to illustrate might go a long way to including your partner in your delight. 

Regards alan

OK, I'm confused. If you're using 2 Musos in multi-room mode; if the timing offset is cancelled when in one room, how is it not twice as bad when in the other?

winkyincanada posted:

OK, I'm confused. If you're using 2 Musos in multi-room mode; if the timing offset is cancelled when in one room, how is it not twice as bad when in the other?

I'm afraid I've been dangerously unclear! ...and it all seemed so harmless and well-intentioned!!

i was trying to say that regular radio is in sync when played on all receivers since there is a single, common broadcast shared by all listeners. In iRadio, however, each listener gets her own broadcast - and these are not in sync... and so you can hear it. Kind of like when you're watching the same film on an airplane: hard to get your screen in sync with your partner in the seat beside you, even if you both press play at the same time. 

When you use a device in multi-room mode - such as the Naim family - the "master" unit listens to the iRadio broadcast, then plays it in sync on all the local devices (including itself). 

This is a small delight that everyone can enjoy, even those who were unaware that there would be a sync issue for iRadio (or any stream). 

Sorry for the confusion and no intent to upset marital bliss here!

Regards alan 

The thread was intended to be light-hearted, but also with a serious side to it. Why should it be so difficult to synchronise two identical units (Muso), connected to the same network through the same router, using the same broadband provider  ? 

alan33 posted:

winkyincanada posted:

OK, I'm confused. If you're using 2 Musos in multi-room mode; if the timing offset is cancelled when in one room, how is it not twice as bad when in the other?

I'm afraid I've been dangerously unclear! ...and it all seemed so harmless and well-intentioned!!

i was trying to say that regular radio is in sync when played on all receivers since there is a single, common broadcast shared by all listeners. In iRadio, however, each listener gets her own broadcast - and these are not in sync... and so you can hear it. Kind of like when you're watching the same film on an airplane: hard to get your screen in sync with your partner in the seat beside you, even if you both press play at the same time. 

When you use a device in multi-room mode - such as the Naim family - the "master" unit listens to the iRadio broadcast, then plays it in sync on all the local devices (including itself). 

This is a small delight that everyone can enjoy, even those who were unaware that there would be a sync issue for iRadio (or any stream). 

Sorry for the confusion and no intent to upset marital bliss here!

Regards alan 

Gotcha. Thanks.

(I imagined we were talking about something like the time-shift they do for different speaker stacks at music festivals to avoid the dreaded echo. Well at least they SHOULD do it. Simon and Garfunkel was ruined for me many years back in Sydney when noise complaints from the previous night resulted in hastily installed secondary speakers that were not time synched.)