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OK to remove the errored track but you must also edit the metadata to change the disc's track total number & the individual track(s) numbers.     If the errors are on the last track(s), its probably CD "rot" - oxidation of the metallic layer at the outside edge of the disc.  

The offset is an auto function related to Secure & AccurateRip,  no reason to get involved.

As I suspected - that is the bit I cannot find where to do ?

Does it mean re-ripping the disc without the offending track after amending the metadata ?

Thanks for speedy reply !!

Al

...........   ahhhh    ..............  give me a while & I will get back to you with a how to do it list

Wow ! - Thanks so much for feedback

2 more questions - I see from your profile you have NDX + XPS - is the XPS worth having - expensive !?

Can I just change the photo in the folder in Windows Explorer at will ? - I would think I could

Meanwhile I will get to work on your reply !

Thanks again

Al

And of course you can do the whole lot in File Explorer if you want. No need to start dBpoweramp just use ID-Tag under file properties.

Bananahead,   how do you access the metadata in file explorer to change the track sequence numbers if needed, 1/15, 2/15 etc.   I find it just too easy to right click & instantly open the dBp pop-up screen for access.  

Al,  my XPS is not a Naim, they are about £870GBP at the mo.   I bought mine for my old CDX2 & the change was dramatic.  With NDX the change is worthwhile, but not dramatic. 

Yes you can change the photo,  but be sure to call it the same name & spelt the same way - Folder not folder if the same was like that.   However the metadata might not be linked to that photo & have instead its own embedded copy.  In that case you need to "add" the folder art you change to. 

Hi Banana - don't see how one can do what you suggest - can rename files but that is all

Mike - thanks so much - will now get to work - learning again !!

Regards,

Al

Al, assuming you have a Windows computer, it would be worthwhile downloading the free mp3tag metadata tagging program. This would make retagging files much easier than doing it via file manager or the properties of individual files. For instance, you would be able to see if your album has a total number of tracks tag and edit it via mp3tag's Extended tags option (Alt + T) shortcut.

mp3tag is OK but the OP has dBpoweramp & that too is just so easy.   I have both & also a simple basic open source called AudioShell.  But my go-to is invariably dBpoweramp,  maybe in retrospect its because I have not had the need for big tag editing jobs & no doubt mp3tag works better for that.   

mp3tag has been my swiss-army knife for tagging for many years for library-wide, album and individual tagging jobs but you can make minor changes using Windows File Explorer. In the Explorer window, right click the audio file, choose Properties from the popup menu, then choose the Details tab from the Properties dialog. There you will find a basic set of editable tag fields (Artist/Album/Year/Track/Genre).

Besides mp3tag, please do consider MediaMonkey which I feel is a lot easier to use to manage bulk retagging. 

I am using mp3tag only for DSF files as MediaMokey cannot handle DSF.

Adrian_P posted:

mp3tag has been my swiss-army knife for tagging for many years for library-wide, album and individual tagging jobs but you can make minor changes using Windows File Explorer. In the Explorer window, right click the audio file, choose Properties from the popup menu, then choose the Details tab from the Properties dialog. There you will find a basic set of editable tag fields (Artist/Album/Year/Track/Genre).

b###er you lot,  you've got me fiddling.     Adrian I have used the Win Explorer Properties route before,  it opens up the dBpoweramp window on my machine,  I just tried it again & found a download album I had not changed with dBp, its still dBp.  

One thing that is a mild irritant & this takes us back to the OP subject:  None of the tag editors show a "bad" track,  even dBp that ripped the album & assigned AccurateRip does not show anything to indicate A.Rip or error in its ID-Tag facility. 

If you right click and choose properties in File Explorer, then do you not get a tab called ID-Tag?

(maybe it's a Windows 10 thing)

Yes I get ID-Tag,  its the dBpoweramp editor & all the lines are editable.      I also get Audio Properties, also taken from dBpoweramp data,  but not editable  -----------  Like you say,  must be a Win-10 thing

If you want the tracks giving large errors, just try ripping them in Burst Mode, then listen to the rip, using appropriate software on your computer. If it sounds OK, don't worry, just enjoy your music.  If it's total cr*p, then delete the offending tracks.  That's what I did!.   The ones that gave problems seemed to be mainly Hyperion classical CDs.

On a couple of CDs, this didn't work, so I played them via my CDS(1),  and recorded in the analogue domain to my Korg MR2, then sorted out metadata, track divisions etc in Audacity (freeware)

al9315 posted:

Copying some discs to hard drive in preparation for NDX installation

One a couple of Cds the last track or two come up with errors  ( Re-rip 8864 frames ) - tried re-writing them - but no go - maybe scratched Cd.... ?

QUESTION ?

Can I just delete the track in file manager? AND will the rest of the CD - successfully copied tracks - work OK ?

What does the +/- offset mean please ?

Thanks

Al

Yes you can delete them. You might want to find if they play ok first... despite permanent data loss the ripped file may simply skip slightly - and so you can put up with it - as you would if you played the CD. 

Not sure about your offset question - but typically a ripper will determine the offset so it knows when the audio starts with respect to the table of contents - on the CD for a particular CD-ROM. Most rippers determine this themselves. 

With regard to renaming the metadata - the posts above nail it. You use the dBpoweramp ID-Tag option when you right click a file ... there are other options and techniques - but this is probably the easiest. When you install dBpoweramp it installs an extension into FileManager to allow you to do this.

Simon

In a dBpoweramp context I believe that "offset" is a drive specific constant that needs to be determined before the results of a rip can sensibly be compared with the Accuraterip database and with other rips.

According to Acuraterip "Each CD drive reads audio discs slightly out (a number of samples), if your CD drive supports 'Accurate Stream' it will be a constant value, this value tends to be the same for each particular make and model of CD Drive. "

According to dBpoweramp: "AccurateRip is an online database containing the results of other peoples rips, with AccurateRip it is possible to be sure 100% if a rip was without error. Before AccurateRip can be used the Sample Offset for the drive must be detected, this is an automatic process (a message will appear offering to find the offset on inserting a suitable CD).".

and

"Sample Offset is used by AccurateRip, every drive has a consistent sample offset (AccurateStream is required, all modern drives support AccurateStream), once this offset is known ripping on different makes of drives gives the same results."

Mike-B posted:

Yes I get ID-Tag,  its the dBpoweramp editor & all the lines are editable.      I also get Audio Properties, also taken from dBpoweramp data,  but not editable  -----------  Like you say,  must be a Win-10 thing

Mike, click the Details tab rather than ID-Tag or Audio Properties. There you should see the basic set of editable tag fields.

Adrian,  sorry my friend but its not me in need of help with this, I'm more than able editing with dBpoweramp or mp3tg,  I don't use File Explorer for this.    I got involved in this thread to help AL9315 with his editing.  (which I think has been done)                      Per my previous post;  I have Win-10 & the dBpoweramp installs an extension into File Explorer (as Win-10 now calls it)   File Explore "properties" ID-Tag opens the dBpoweramp installed extension - its effectively the dBpoweramp Edit ID-Tag screen - & that is the only editable screen.   The other tabs are not editable;  Details is not & also Audio Properties is not.   Like I said -- its a Win-10 thing

Fantastic - Thank you all so much for your assistance - getting on OK at the moment !

Regards,

Al

I do like the idea of Audio Properties being editable.

Just watch me change this 16/44.1 FLAC into a 24/96 WAV

Mike-B posted:

  The other tabs are not editable;  Details is not & also Audio Properties is not.   Like I said -- its a Win-10 thing

Mike, apologies. I tried it on a Win7 machine and the fields on the Details tab are read-only as you say. So, to the OP, this is a useful feature but only if you are on Win10, otherwise dbPoweramp or mp3tag are your friends.

Adrian

Adrian_P posted:

Mike-B posted:

Yes I get ID-Tag,  its the dBpoweramp editor & all the lines are editable.      I also get Audio Properties, also taken from dBpoweramp data,  but not editable  -----------  Like you say,  must be a Win-10 thing

Mike, click the Details tab rather than ID-Tag or Audio Properties. There you should see the basic set of editable tag fields.

Adrian on WAV files the Audio Properties upgrades the relatively limited ListInfo WAV meta data - but the dBpoweramp Filemanager extension allows the editing of the unofficial WAV ID3 metadata tags. dBPoweramp usually writes to both when ripping and creating a WAV file (unless you specifically disable)

Simon

I think I can manage to sort the few problems out - thanks to all your help : but perhaps someone can explain the dbPoweramp terminology, as you do ssem to fully understand it all !?

I have just ripped a CD (20 tracks) - all apart from track 12 read 

Track 12 reads : 

Ripper information reads : Accuraterip: Inaccurate (confidence 26) Secure (Warning) [Pass 1 & " Re-Rip 5 Frames]

I understand this track has not copied correctly - but what does AR (26) stand for i.e the (26) part - if it actually plays, can I assume it is sort of OK ???

Thanks again

Al