Supercap now on SNAXO 2-4

Posted by: Marksnaim on 30 April 2016

Thought I'd start a new thread as the previous SC on 282 thread had strayed somewhat. I was interested in the differing views, but... Anyway. Snaxo burndy arrived this morning so having got my Saturday chores out of the way it was time to swap the SC and HCDR around and utilise the SC full capability on the Snaxo. 

Two Laura Marling tracks in and there's no competition. I was impressed by the SC on the 282 and in my system/room etc it's a winner (for me) over the HCDR. But with the 282 back on the HCDR and the SC powering the Snaxo there's a further lift in clarity. Already more space around individual instruments, but at  the same time the coherence of the whole is better. You can feel the musicians playing together more. Lots of foot tapping going on too which must be a good sign.

I can't say I'm 100% clear on the distinction but maybe this is what people mean when they refer ro more musical and less HiFi in presentation. It's maybe less in you face but more natural. But I really did like what the SC did for the 282. Unless I hear something i don't like in the coming weeks I can't see myself swapping back the SC onto the 282. Oh dear...another SC might be required. 

 

Posted on: 30 April 2016 by analogmusic

expensive....

Posted on: 30 April 2016 by Marksnaim

Inevitable maybe.

Posted on: 30 April 2016 by Allante93
Marksnaim posted:

Thought I'd start a new thread as the previous SC on 282 thread had strayed somewhat. I was interested in the differing views, but... Anyway. Snaxo burndy arrived this morning so having got my Saturday chores out of the way it was time to swap the SC and HCDR around and utilise the SC full capability on the Snaxo. 

Two Laura Marling tracks in and there's no competition. I was impressed by the SC on the 282 and in my system/room etc it's a winner (for me) over the HCDR. But with the 282 back on the HCDR and the SC powering the Snaxo there's a further lift in clarity. Already more space around individual instruments, but at  the same time the coherence of the whole is better. You can feel the musicians playing together more. Lots of foot tapping going on too which must be a good sign.

I can't say I'm 100% clear on the distinction but maybe this is what people mean when they refer ro more musical and less HiFi in presentation. It's maybe less in you face but more natural. But I really did like what the SC did for the 282. Unless I hear something i don't like in the coming weeks I can't see myself swapping back the SC onto the 282. Oh dear...another SC might be required. 

 

Well sometimes I get a little long winded, so I will try to keep this as short as possible.  From the above paragraph This is what I'm getting from you:

1st--  the SC was an improvement over HCDR on the 282 (that's SC not SCDR )

2nd-- After you swapped, and put the SC on the Snaxo 2-4, and the HCDR back on the 282 there was a substantial more gain with that combo.

3rd --Back to the Bank, Two SC will be needed, to optimize performance! 

 

Well, It really is what I was expecting, The Forum roasted me, early this year, when I suggested that a 282 might out perform a 202 based the optional PS availability. 

Likewise, a 252 might out perform a 282/SCDR based on the Interconnect supplied from the 252 to SC, just take a look at the rear of 282 vs 252 with Burndy

Likewise, a 552 might out perform a 252 based on Naims  Top Tier Power Supply, the 555PS

Well, My HCDR, doesn't have a Burndy out, but the SC's Do, oh well, as you said, Inevitable maybe!

 

If I got you pegged correctly, right now you look something like the following:

HCDR > 282 > SC > Snaxo 2-4 > 2 x 250.2's > IBL, NBL's, SBL's  ( not Briks at the moment )

Enjoy your music! 

Allante93! 

 

 

 

Posted on: 30 April 2016 by Marksnaim

Pretty much, it's actually LP12>282>HCDR>SC>Snaxo-2-4>2x250DR>IBL

And yes, putting the SC (non DR) on ghe Snaxo was indeed a big change from having it on the 282. In my opinion a change for the better. I'm certainly hearing more detail but musically it all hangs together just that bit better also. But the SC on the 282 was also a great uplift and hence another one will be on the shopping list eventually. 

Notthing else changing now though until building works are finished. Which seems to be getting ever further away. Everything is taking longer than I hoped. But when it's finally done then it'll be;

LP12>282>SC(DR?)>SC>Snaxo362>3x250DR>Briks

Posted on: 30 April 2016 by hungryhalibut

Wouldn't a 252 or 552 be a better way? If you went with SL2s you wouldn't need any extra amps, and could put the cash towards a better preamp. 

Posted on: 30 April 2016 by Allante93
Marksnaim posted:

Pretty much, it's actually LP12>282>HCDR>SC>Snaxo-2-4>2x250DR>IBL

And yes, putting the SC (non DR) on ghe Snaxo was indeed a big change from having it on the 282. In my opinion a change for the better. I'm certainly hearing more detail but musically it all hangs together just that bit better also. But the SC on the 282 was also a great uplift and hence another one will be on the shopping list eventually. 

Notthing else changing now though until building works are finished. Which seems to be getting ever further away. Everything is taking longer than I hoped. But when it's finally done then it'll be;

LP12>282>SC(DR?)>SC>Snaxo362>3x250DR>Briks

Thanks for the info. I'm good now.  

I will check back once I purchase the SCDR, if it's still on the Market! 

Out! 

Allante93!

Posted on: 30 April 2016 by Marksnaim

The voice of reason, but I've promised myself Briks HH. Used to have them years ago and have my heart set on getting back there. IMO the 282/Hc/250 is the minimum requirement in the current range for running Briks active. I have heard SL2's and there's much that I love about them also. Indeed I think there's some IBL DNA in the sound. But the Briks are an itch I have to scratch. Admittedly the SC wasn't originally in the plan but when a great opportunity came up I had a moment of weakness. Still it'll stand me in good stead should I ever want to try the 252.

Posted on: 30 April 2016 by Christopher_M

I admire you, Mark, you've obviously got a plan and you're sticking to it. Out of interest, and forgive me if you have answered this before, but have you ever heard passive Briks, fronted by a 252 or better, and a single NAP250? (I haven't btw, in fact, never heard Briks, only know their reputation).

Best, Chris

Posted on: 30 April 2016 by Marksnaim

To be fair no I haven't Chris. To be honest i wouldn't consider passive briks now. They sound so slow compared to IBL's, or SL2's for that matter, that I couldn't live with it despite the things they do bring to the table. Active is a completely different beast. Still not up to DBL, IBL, SL2 in the absolute speed and transparency but not that far behind. But with incredible bass. I'm sure there are better speakers out there now but at what cost? DBL's I'd consider but size wise they just wouldn't go. SWMBO wouldn't approve either i suspect. I've been banging on about Briks for so long now that she's finally capitulated. Can't push my luck too far.

Rgds, Mark 

Posted on: 30 April 2016 by Christopher_M

Thanks. When the happy day comes and the Briks are installed, if the grilles are shabby, new ones can be had from the bloke who does the IBL grilles. (Just for the sake of domestics, and that).

chris

Posted on: 30 April 2016 by Marksnaim

Good call. Thanks Chris.