how to qobuz?

I often use iPeng with Qobuz streaming to a Logitech Touch into a Chord Hugo TT, so I would guess that using Squeezlite would work fine. Qobuz is fantastic, a whole world of musical pleasure. And iPeng is superb.  I doubt Naim will ever support Qobuz, and I doubt they will ever have as nice a control point as iPeng. They are really struggling to deliver competent software in a reasonable timeframe and they don't publish a road map so I think you are right to look elsewhere for a solution. The Auralic products look good - the mini gives you a huge amount of functionality for quite a reasonable cost. And Auralic are open about future plans.

I personally sometimes airdrop Qobuz to my Muso, which wouldn't work for you. I have understood that other people have installed BubbleUPnP and use that to stream Qobuz. I can't help you however on how to install it and how it will work.

Ah, yes, I am using BubbleUPnP already for the qobuz testing snippets. But I would like to have a more reliable solution than using wifi for streaming. Also BubbleUPnP sometimes takes very long to find my unit. The wifi thing is the reason why I do not want to try the google chromecast, even if this will be the cheapest way, I think.

Dare I suggest this, not sure....ah, who cares.  Google chromecast audio solves the problem,  No drop-outs, no problems in my experience using its SPDIF output.  I only own one out of curiosity, but have to admit, it's a talented device for a mere 30 GBP.

Gert - you can do this by installing BubbleUPnP on your PC / MAC and Lumin as the control point app on an iPad.  Lumin has Tidal and Qobuz options.  I used this for a while when Tidal was very unreliable (much better now) - I didn't try Qobuz, but it was available on Lumin.

There is an old thread on this;

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...80#55208644559801180

Great, thank you very much for the hint. I already have Installed BubbleUPnP server on my Synology NAS. So i will try the BubblrUPnP app or one of the mentioned iOS apps to stream from qobuz.

I always thought that this solution would stream over wifi twice. Oncr from qobuz to my android device and then from the BubbleUPnP apps local media server to the BubbleUPnP server. But if BubbleUPnP server does handle the streaming directly from qobuz, this would be great.

Thanks again

Gert

Thanks again, Borders Nick, for the hint to bubble upnp server. I have subscribed to qobuz sublime now and the first album (Andrew Bird, Are you serious [Deluxe Edition]) is streaming fine until now. Unfortunately not in 96kHZ but only in 44.1kHz, even though I have configured the bubble upnp app to allow streaming up to 96kHz.

But ok, even better to find new music instead of only testing some way too short snippets of 30-60 seconds.

Hi Gert,

I've been running a Raspberry Pi 2 hooked up with a HifiBerry Digi+ for quite a while now, streaming Qobuz using LMS and squeezelite to great effect. In fact, I would say quality is on par, if not better, than the files hosted on my hard drive; which is connected to the same Pi running Asset UPNP.

The system is incredibly stable and the user experience perfectly acceptable using iPeng on the iPad. Unfortunately, I have yet to find anything near as good on Android - Squeezer perhaps being the best of the bunch.

To answer your final question... no, hi-res (i.e. better than CD) is not possible. This is not a technical limitation, but one actually applied by Qobuz themselves. If I recall correctly, they only allow 24bit streaming directly to their own app on Android (see http://www.whathifi.com/news/q...ing-now-live-android).

I hope this helps.

Regards

JackRabbit

P.S. Avoid XBMC and/or OSMC. They are resource hungry and using them seems to impact sound quality (albeit minor). OSMC seems to be very buggy these days and the developer seems reticent to help, closing threads and blaming anything apart from his own product.

gert posted:

Thanks again, Borders Nick, for the hint to bubble upnp server. I have subscribed to qobuz sublime now and the first album (Andrew Bird, Are you serious [Deluxe Edition]) is streaming fine until now. Unfortunately not in 96kHZ but only in 44.1kHz, even though I have configured the bubble upnp app to allow streaming up to 96kHz.

But ok, even better to find new music instead of only testing some way too short snippets of 30-60 seconds.

Glad to be of some assistance - pity you can't stream at high res.  I only ever used this as a work around for Tidal (44kHz) when it was very patchy.

Hang on, Chromecast? What, plugged into the USB port in the ND5SX? That would be perfect.

Mike1951 posted:

Hang on, Chromecast? What, plugged into the USB port in the ND5SX? That would be perfect.

Not the USB port, the Chromecast Audio has an optical SPDIF output, so with the appropriate cable, you would connect it to the optical digital input on the ND5XS.  I use one in this way with a Naim DAC-V1 and it works very well.  The Qobuz iOS and Android apps connect to the Chromecast faultlessly, and will play away for hours on end with no problems in my experience to date.

I tried Qobuz via a Chromecast Audio into my 272 and the sound quaility was dreadful. I was using the Chromecast wirelessly from the router about 5m away; maybe it would have been better wired. I played an album from Qobuz and then from my NAS and there was no comparison. 

QOBUZ IS NOT A VERB.

Eh?

I think he references to the subject. But much more important is: You do not write everything in capital letters! Especially not in an hifi related forum, where all members should have not too bad ears

gert posted:

I think he references to the subject. But much more important is: You do not write everything in capital letters! Especially not in an hifi related forum, where all members should have not too bad ears

On the contrary, most of us probably suffer from self inflicted and/or age related deafness, and require all the help we can get. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

I tried Qobuz via a Chromecast Audio into my 272 and the sound quaility was dreadful. I was using the Chromecast wirelessly from the router about 5m away; maybe it would have been better wired. I played an album from Qobuz and then from my NAS and there was no comparison. 

Interesting.  I would not have described it as dreadful, but in my setup would concede that it's not as good compared to my usual method for listening to Qobuz.  For that reason, I tend to only use it when listening outside in the garden where the usual remote control methods are not feasible, and I can just control everything from my phone.  I've not really sat down and listened to it properly I suppose, not for very long anyway, but I still doubt I would declare it dreadful.  Perhaps my judgment is clouded by the fact that it costs so little.