CDX2 - what should it sit on?
Posted by: Frenchnaim on 13 May 2016
I've just bought a second-hand CDX2 (a 2014 model), and I seem to remember that it doesn't like to sit on some racks, because of the metal feet. Wood, glass, a suspended isolation platform like the Audiophile base? I can't find the right thread in the forum.
Thanks for your replies.
It will be happy on any decent rack.
I don't think the Atacama Equinox ranks very highly in these parts... The CDX2 will have to wait for its decent rack then. Thanks for your reply.
+1 on that HH. On my CDX2 the feet look identical to my SN. The difference being the SN feet have a softer rubber insert and the CDX2 uses a harder rubber.
Frenchnaim posted:I've just bought a second-hand CDX2 (a 2014 model), and I seem to remember that it doesn't like to sit on some racks, because of the metal feet. Wood, glass, a suspended isolation platform like the Audiophile base? I can't find the right thread in the forum.
Thanks for your replies.
Nice deck, good move picking it up on the 2nd hand market. Perhaps you could take advantage of the 2nd market with Fraimlite.
Naim thinks it a decent rack!
Check out ongoing post Fraimlite!
Allante93!
Finkfan posted:+1 on that HH. On my CDX2 the feet look identical to my SN. The difference being the SN feet have a softer rubber insert and the CDX2 uses a harder rubber.
Yes, I don't recall it having metal feet. Certainly the CDS2 and 3 do, which I imagine is because they have internal suspension, so don't want compliant feet as well.
The CDX2 feet are hollow cavities with a thin ring on the feet edge of a hard material that feels a bit like ceramic, they annoyingly slide around on glass & smooth varnished wood. The Naim solution to stop sliding on the Fraim glass was self adhesive plastic buttons that the hollow feet sat over (but did not touch). I used 19mm sorbothane half balls that fitted inside the hollow feet & protruded aprx 1mm giving a soft slightly yielding suspension & excellent non-slip. Despite warnings of dire consequences from the Naim purists on the forum about sorbothane , it improved the SQ on my wood rack (you may have variables from different racks & surfaces) Other peeps around have reported success with sorbothane in one form or other.
The other option on surfaces that allow the player to slide is to put a half moon shaped bit of the blu putty stuff behind the rear feet, a bit like a retaining wall. The player can't slide backwards and you've not interfered with the important contact point with the feet and the rack shelf. This also helps with keeping your all important cable management in place.
Mike
This is quite a n interesting one... in my early days of Naim and my CDX2 I used Cyrus application and I felt the CDX2 sounded best on a wooden rack with sorborthane pads... However zoom many years on to when I now use Naim 252 based amplification and the CDX2 definitely sounds at home on a full fat Fraim shelf.
I never cease to be fascinated by this forum. You ask a (you think) simple question, and you get all sorts of answers, each one more interesting than the previous one... Thanks for your answers so far - now, where can I get a cheap Fraimlite???
So, as mine was the first answer, it must have been pretty rubbish...
Hungryhalibut posted:So, as mine was the first answer, it must have been pretty rubbish...
Whereas this is the last answer, so must be the best ![]()
Until now - take that!
The first one was extremely interesting, its just got better and better...
Frenchnaim posted:I never cease to be fascinated by this forum. You ask a (you think) simple question, and you get all sorts of answers, each one more interesting than the previous one... Thanks for your answers so far - now, where can I get a cheap Fraimlite???
Great, perhaps you've glanced at the ongoing Fraimlite post.
The nice thing about naim, the 2nd hand market is a good price adjuster. Naim Seminars is a starting pt., Naim dealerships demo is another option.
But the Internet is helm of information, just Google fraimlite for sale. When I googled this it took me to the Netherlands, end up purchasing a 4 tier black on black Fraimlite @ 850 Euros, sweet deal like new, but shipping and exchange rates boosted the price up to 1250 USD, still a great deal when a 2 tier is running about the same price!
More than likely the internet will direct you to EBay, Audiogon, or Canuck Audio to naim a few!
Canuck directed me to dealer, which have some listed as we speak, cherry & silver I believe.
Dealership listing, in fact I purchased a 3 tier Black on black from this guy nice deal.
So start googling!
Allante93!
Glass shelves - that's my simple answer ![]()
Hated a steel framed rack with mdf shelves, better when I dressed the cables so none touched the rack but Fraim Lite was revalatory in comparison and Fraim an improvement on that. Thus endothelial my personal experience but my dealer was adamant the steel was ruining the system and suggested isoblue in place of Fraim as a cheaper option. I think he used quadraspire too but considers it a bit below isoblue.
Adam +1 and I also agree with Allante. With non-electrical, non- mechanical things then second hand is the best way. I just acquired a full fat Fraim for £1250, strangely also from the Netherlands.
The price of Fraim has got a bit daft these days, but you can certainly pick up used bargains. I don't like the look of the Fraim Lite, which has those odd MDF shelves with the hole in them. Without the glass shelves, nothing seems to line up. Full Fraim is an excellent rack if you've got the space and enjoy dusting. Quadraspire SVT bamboo, which I use nowadays, seems better than Hutter and Isoblue to me, and lets the equipment do its thing. It could be an option, and looks a lot better than the rather spindly Q4 reference. The finish on the shelves is way better than Fraimlite too.
None of you mention the Audiophile Starbase, which I can pick up easily from the manufacturer, as they are based not very far from where I live. It seemed to be popular at one time, but this was probably before Naim started making its own rack?
And how exactly would we know that you live close to them
?
Just kiddin'...
Test - if you like it, buy it. Your musical enjoyment is the most important when your system is concerned.
There is no 11th commandmend: Thy shall buy only Fraim for thy Naim (not that I know of anyway...)
But as you know, Adam, testing different racks is a well-nigh impossible task... Most dealers have only one make - two at most.
Ineed. I'd say - just buy the one you like the look of. Aesthetics are also important.
From a certain level each rack will sound good, I think.