Football season 2016/17

Posted by: Kevin-W on 15 June 2016

Given that the fixtures are now out, I thought it would be appropriate to start a new thread.

Listening to the radio when these fixtures came out, it was interesting that all the pundits were blithely carrying on as if the old order (Man U, City, Arsenal, Chelsea) had not been disrupted.

All the "important" matches were these four plus Liverpool. No mention of the likes of Spurs, Leicester or WHU.

I suspect the newspapers will be the same.

But is the old order still tenable? There is no proof that Guardioloa or Conte will adapt to thePL, or that Maureen is the right choice for the Mancs.

Everyone has much more money, and, because of Leicester's achievement last year, nobody is scared of the so-called big boys, all the "little" teams no longer "know their place".

It'll be the most exciting, open season ever and the "big boys" and their media supplicants won't have it all their own way. So, at the risk of making ourselves look stupid, anyone got any predictions?

Posted on: 12 May 2017 by MDS

Congratulations Chelsea. Thoroughly deserved.

And seeing Conte's passion and joy on the touchline, I can't help but warm to the guy. Well done. 

Posted on: 12 May 2017 by JamieWednesday

I've said it before, and I'll say it again

Posted on: 13 May 2017 by Kevin-W

At least it wasn't the Spuds.

Posted on: 14 May 2017 by Tabby cat

Well deserved Chelsea..Best team won this season.

Posted on: 14 May 2017 by Christopher_M

Yes, well done Chelsea. They were magnificent when they played at St Mary's.

Posted on: 14 May 2017 by Christopher_M

Mike, what's this stuff I've heard on Solent about Paul Cook and Wigan? Anything in it?

Posted on: 14 May 2017 by Bob the Builder

Great win for Arsenal at Stoke, C'mon The Hammers beat Liverpool today and you will open that top four door for usl.  A possible top four place and an FA Cup win and people are flying banners over head asking the manager to be sacked!

Posted on: 14 May 2017 by MDS
Christopher_M posted:

Mike, what's this stuff I've heard on Solent about Paul Cook and Wigan? Anything in it?

Don't think so, Chris. He's on a club-paid-for holiday and has another year of his contract left. Maybe Wigan might offer more money but having just been relegated to League One and a smaller club than Pompey, it's hard to see what would be in it for Cook. If Eisner takes over, he'll also have a bigger budget to play with next season.

BTW I saw a report in my paper suggesting the Saints might be after the Hull manager, Silva. He's done well in difficult circumstances at Hull, though probably not enough to save them from the drop.  

Posted on: 14 May 2017 by Christopher_M
MDS posted:
Christopher_M posted:

Mike, what's this stuff I've heard on Solent about Paul Cook and Wigan? Anything in it?

Don't think so, Chris. He's on a club-paid-for holiday and has another year of his contract left. Maybe Wigan might offer more money but having just been relegated to League One and a smaller club than Pompey, it's hard to see what would be in it for Cook. If Eisner takes over, he'll also have a bigger budget to play with next season.

BTW I saw a report in my paper suggesting the Saints might be after the Hull manager, Silva. He's done well in difficult circumstances at Hull, though probably not enough to save them from the drop.  

I just thought he'd be closer to home.

Re: Silva. I read that too. The Saints writer whom I work with suggests that were it to happen, the most boring manager in the Prem would be replaced with the second most boring manager in the Prem. I'm not talking about the football here.

Posted on: 14 May 2017 by Paper Plane

Spurs 2 - 1 Man United

An acceptable result for our last game at the Lane.

steve

Posted on: 14 May 2017 by Suzy Wong
Christopher_M posted:

Re: Silva. I read that too. The Saints writer whom I work with suggests that were it to happen, the most boring manager in the Prem would be replaced with the second most boring manager in the Prem. I'm not talking about the football here.

But Chris, the real problem is the annual exodus.....I can see Van Dijk, Bertrand and Foster all going over the summer. Sure we'll get a lot of cash for them which we can then spend on er, ..........."standing still" next season. 

 

Chris

Posted on: 14 May 2017 by MDS
Paper Plane posted:

Spurs 2 - 1 Man United

An acceptable result for our last game at the Lane.

steve

...and a nice send off to the old Lane after the game.  Pleased to see the likes of Chivers, Gilzen, England, and Jennings there. Pity Gazza wasn't.

Posted on: 14 May 2017 by Christopher_M
Suzy Wong posted:
Christopher_M posted:

Re: Silva. I read that too. The Saints writer whom I work with suggests that were it to happen, the most boring manager in the Prem would be replaced with the second most boring manager in the Prem. I'm not talking about the football here.

But Chris, the real problem is the annual exodus.....I can see Van Dijk, Bertrand and Foster all going over the summer. Sure we'll get a lot of cash for them which we can then spend on er, ..........."standing still" next season.

I can see them going too. I'd like us to hang on to Romeu and Davis. Long wants out. J-Rod too. It's looking very much like mid table mediocrity once again, and that's before this season's even ended.

Where is the chairman in all this? The CEO sacked etc., potential Chinese takeover by someone not, allegedly, a fit and proper person. We hear nothing. A shitshow behind the scenes. And on the field, grindingly boring footbul.

C.

(Can't quite get my head round that you are Chris, not Suzy!).

Posted on: 15 May 2017 by MDS
Christopher_M posted:
Suzy Wong posted:
Christopher_M posted:

Re: Silva. I read that too. The Saints writer whom I work with suggests that were it to happen, the most boring manager in the Prem would be replaced with the second most boring manager in the Prem. I'm not talking about the football here.

But Chris, the real problem is the annual exodus.....I can see Van Dijk, Bertrand and Foster all going over the summer. Sure we'll get a lot of cash for them which we can then spend on er, ..........."standing still" next season.

I can see them going too. I'd like us to hang on to Romeu and Davis. Long wants out. J-Rod too. It's looking very much like mid table mediocrity once again, and that's before this season's even ended.

Where is the chairman in all this? The CEO sacked etc., potential Chinese takeover by someone not, allegedly, a fit and proper person. We hear nothing. A shitshow behind the scenes. And on the field, grindingly boring footbul.

C.

(Can't quite get my head round that you are Chris, not Suzy!).

Just a bit of a reality check, Chris/Suzy W. The vast majority of footie fans can only dream of mid-table mediocrity in the PL! You've got a great club, stadium and a youth development system that seems to produce an endless stream of talent, generating tens of millions for the club every season.   

Mike

Posted on: 15 May 2017 by Christopher_M

Yes Mike, I can see how it must look. All I can say is that reality is relative.

Saints' recent past has featured Koeman, Pochettino, Mane, Lallana, (Bale*, Walcott*) Wanyama, Alderweireld, Clyne and Pellè. If nothing else, games were exciting. Hell, they were even entertaining.

Ungrateful whinge over from me. (for this season).

 

* Okay, a bit further back in time but you get it.

Posted on: 15 May 2017 by JamieWednesday

I'm worried about beating Watford tonight.

Posted on: 15 May 2017 by Christopher_M

Posted on: 15 May 2017 by Hook
Bob the Builder posted:

Great win for Arsenal at Stoke, C'mon The Hammers beat Liverpool today and you will open that top four door for usl.  A possible top four place and an FA Cup win and people are flying banners over head asking the manager to be sacked!

Not to be mean, but the former did not happen, and the latter will be a big challenge.

LFC played very well yesterday, and looked like they really want a top four finish.  Of course, given their record against bottom half teams, a win versus Middlesbrough next week is not a certainty.

As far as the FA Cup, I hope for a good match.  But if Arsenal is out of the top four by then, I think Chelsea will play harder to win their second title of the season.

I admire Wenger's record, but don't most supporters sense it is time for a change?  I suspect Arsenal will attract better signings (or lose fewer key players) in the off season if he retires, but I could be wrong.

Posted on: 15 May 2017 by Bob the Builder
Hook posted:
Bob the Builder posted:

Great win for Arsenal at Stoke, C'mon The Hammers beat Liverpool today and you will open that top four door for usl.  A possible top four place and an FA Cup win and people are flying banners over head asking the manager to be sacked!

Not to be mean, but the former did not happen, and the latter will be a big challenge.

LFC played very well yesterday, and looked like they really want a top four finish.  Of course, given their record against bottom half teams, a win versus Middlesbrough next week is not a certainty.

As far as the FA Cup, I hope for a good match.  But if Arsenal is out of the top four by then, I think Chelsea will play harder to win their second title of the season.

I admire Wenger's record, but don't most supporters sense it is time for a change?  I suspect Arsenal will attract better signings (or lose fewer key players) in the off season if he retires, but I could be wrong.

Yes you would be right in thinking you are wrong,  as an Arsenal supporter I would not be against Wenger leaving if the time was right and a suitable replacement found  but I do not think Wenger will leave this season.

Posted on: 17 May 2017 by Suzy Wong
Christopher_M posted:
Suzy Wong posted:

 

C.

(Can't quite get my head round that you are Chris, not Suzy!).

, but I thought that having two "Christopher M"s on the forum would be confusing. I used to be "ChrisM" on a number of forums, but we were hacked a couple of years ago so all changed.

The name derives from "Syltonia Honkong Suzy Wong" who was our much loved (and much missed) chocolate tortie Burmese cat.

I really should change it.

 But back to the footy,......

and another penalty miss, but I'll take a point, if it helps us finish above the Cherries

Posted on: 17 May 2017 by ekfc63
MDS posted:
Paper Plane posted:

Spurs 2 - 1 Man United

An acceptable result for our last game at the Lane.

steve

...and a nice send off to the old Lane after the game.  Pleased to see the likes of Chivers, Gilzen, England, and Jennings there. Pity Gazza wasn't.

Agree.  Gazza was the "one" I wanted to see there.

Posted on: 17 May 2017 by Christopher_M
Suzy Wong posted:
Christopher_M posted:
Suzy Wong posted:

 

C.

(Can't quite get my head round that you are Chris, not Suzy!).

, but I thought that having two "Christopher M"s on the forum would be confusing. I used to be "ChrisM" on a number of forums, but we were hacked a couple of years ago so all changed.

The name derives from "Syltonia Honkong Suzy Wong" who was our much loved (and much missed) chocolate tortie Burmese cat.

I really should change it.

 But back to the footy,......

and another penalty miss, but I'll take a point, if it helps us finish above the Cherries

Bloody hell, it appears Suzy is a Christopher!

I can just about forgive the penalty miss on the basis that at least Saints looked like they wanted to score this evening. Man U probably more concentrated on Ajax

Now I read that Puel wants them practising penalties before the next game on Sunday, which happens to be the last game of the season. Nice one Claude!

Fellaini was magnificent tonight I thought, just heading everything away.

Chris Dolan, were you there?

Posted on: 18 May 2017 by Suzy Wong
Christopher_M posted:

Bloody hell, it appears Suzy is a Christopher!

Yeah, I blame the parents.........

Posted on: 18 May 2017 by Christopher_M

^ Um, so what did you make of the game?

Posted on: 18 May 2017 by Paper Plane

Leicester 1 - Spurs 6

That doesn't look like going "Spursie" to me...

steve